I have been Eyeing the Milt Sparks VMII and also eyeing Garys Max Con V they look alot alike but is there any difference between the two ???? Looking at then for both a F.S. 1911 and a 229 which would hold these weapons best
The VMII is great!!!!! I have one for each of my guns. Looks like the main difference is that the VMII has the re-enforced mouth for one handed reholstering and the other doesn't. For my preference I wanted the mouth re-enforcement. If you want it thinner in the waistband go with the Brommeland. I have never used the Brommeland holsters but they look great and recieve alot of praise. Milt sparks also has the watch six which is like the VMII but without the re-enforced mouth. Good luck! :biggrin2:
I've got to agree with Bowie, the reinforced mouth is the main difference, the MAX CON V also sits lower in the waist band, the VM II rides a little higher for the reinforced mouth to clear the wasit band.
I have two VM IIs that I like a whole lot, one for a 5" 1911, and one for my Sig 220.
If I was going for more concealment I would go with the MC V.
Eventually I will get one, (MC V) for a smaller gun for deeper concealment.
Some will argure that with a full size auto you will want as much concealment you can get, but I haven't had a problem with the VMII as of yet.
You might want to look at the Sparks HR-LTD for your 1911. I called to order one, but it turns out they are only making them for slimline pistols, like 1911s and HiPowers and such, so I ordered two VMIIs for my Berettas.
I have several VM-2's and they're really great but I also have one of Mark's holsters on order... the Incognito. From what I can see I think it's going to be my new favorite! I'll post a comparison in the fall when I get it! :rofl:
A VM2 for my Wilson Professional 4". Great holster, very comfortable and extremely well made. The reinforced mouth is a nice touch for one hand reholstering of the 1911. It carries the gun very securely.
I also have the MCV for my 4" XD45. It too is a great holster, very comfortable and extremely well made. It does not have a reinforced mouth, which has not presented a problem with one hand reholstering the XD, since it has a slightly more radiused slide, at the muzzle, than the 1911. The leather is very rigid and the gun literally "snaps' into place when inserted. One thing I really like about this holster is the extension paddle, at the bottom, that helps to keep the holster from kicking out when my larger than normal belly pushes against the grip of the gun.
I have worn them both extensively, for 8-10 hours at a time and I have to give the MCV the edge in comfort, but ever so slightly. This could be because of the way it is shaped to hold the XD as compared to the VM2 shaping for the 1911. I would recommend either for your IWB carry purposes.
Don't have a VM2 but I know MS has great quality. Gary also makes excellent holsters. Wait is long, but worth it for both. The MCV would not be as much of a wait. I don't know if you can go wrong either way.
I have a Max-Con V for my Commander sized 1911. I don't currently own a Milt Sparks, but has seen & handled some (Drawing & holstering).
An earlier poster pretty much said it, the M-C V is thinner & sits lower than the MS V-M. The extra leather strip aids in holstering, but I noticed I can holster mine into the B M-C V one handed, too. Now, that may change as the leather wears out, but for right now, I would definitely give the nod to the Brommeland.
They are identical, except Gary stiffens the mouth of the holster. I cannot recall if he uses metal or a very stiff piece of leather, but whatever it is, he's extremely picky on keeping it as slim as possible for concealment!
If you did not know and seen the MCV & MCVI next to each other for the same weapon, you probably wouldn't know the difference.
If your interested, call him! He's a pleasure to speak with! Just don't hold him up too long if he's working on my holster.:yup:
I carry a Para 14.45 in a Milt Sparks VMII with a MS belt.
For a large 1911, I do not know it is there.
The construction is heavy duty.
I did get the horse hide and shark skin trim in black.
Been almost 3 years now and it looks almost as good as when I received it.
JMHO
I carried a Kimber Ultra Carry in a MS VMII for 3 days. Never felt comfortable. It was actually pretty painful for all day carry. I'm convinced the this type Holster WOULD NEVER WORK FOR ME. I'm positive my body built had everything to do with it. The reinforced (thicker) opening was just enough to create constant, relentless discomfort. Once again FOR ME.
Thinking the VMII was an inferior design, I then bought an Alessi style (dual side by side loops on the band), reinforced opening IWB holster. Fogetabahdit! This type holster offered squadoosh comfort.
I was so disappointed that I vowed I'd never buy another IWB Holster again. Got rid of the UC and the VMII and the other IWB unit.
Earlier this year I acquired a Detonics CombatMaster and did a lot of research on IWB Holsters and decided to take a chance on Nates (UBG Holsters) Canute for my Detonics CombatMaster. This holster does not have a reinforced opening and has the belt loops fixated rear and forward away from the Main body.
As Gomer Pyle would say..: Surprise, Surprise,...SURPRISE!
The Canute worked very well for me. I was very surprised and pleased with the comfort zone it gives. I was so impressed with the Canute, I recently ordered a Brommeland MaxCon-V.
I know the Brommeland MaxCon-V is going to be a WINNER,..."for me".
I have read many threads on this forum that state how comfortable the Maxcon V is. I am anxiously awaiting a Maxcon VI for my G23. I knew that it was going to be a long wait when I placed the order, so I don't mind. Everyone says it is worth the wait.
I've owned the Milt Sparks Watch Six for an SA Champion and currently have two MCVs for a 5" Mil-Spec. Between the two companies that's about as close as the models get. The WS was a good holster but in all honesty the MaxCon V blows it away in terms of comfort, stability and refinement.
As far as reinforced mouthbands go, Milt Sparks offers the VMII and Gary has the MaxCon VI. The VMII is tuckable and can be used with kydex clips so if that option's important to you, the VMII is theway to go. I haven't tried a MCVI ... yet but I can tell you that after roughly two years of carry with the MaxCon V I haven't had the first bit of trouble reholstering single handedly.
Milt Sparks has a strong customer base and multiple employees to keep up with demand. They make good holsters so it's hard to make a mistake buying their gear. For me personally, Brommeland's holsters simply work better and are more comfortable doing it, so he gets all my orders.
The trick is finding which maker best suits your individual needs and preferences.
Jack
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