This is a discussion on Holster sagging issues within the Defensive Carry Holsters & Carry Options forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by jtmo3 I have a couple nice IWB holsters that I wear. One is a Brommeland max-con and the other is a Tucker ...
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I understand where you are coming from exactly. I have a Miltsparks Watch Six that does the same thing and then I have a Texas Heritage that doesn't. It is definitely not the belt in my case . I have a horsehide and leather Beltman belt, a really thick Fist belt & a Wilderness Instructors belt. It has to be our body shape I would be willing to bet we are built similar. The only solution I have come up with is either stick with the Texas Heritage or use a much smaller and lighter gun
We'll see how things look once I get my Crossbreed. I am hoping the extra friction from the rough side of the leather will help keep my belt up some.
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I recently picked up the Wilderness 5 stitch belt. It helps a lot in carrying and not having the gun sag as much, but I also think it is a body shape issue. I don't have much of a butt and my pants tend to sag even without the weight of the gun. Could that be the same issue with some of you guys?
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Suspenders solve the problem; however, they're not really usable or comfortable unless I wear a t-shirt under an untucked shirt, which looks a bit strange during current Texas heat.
I have two 1 1/2" Looper Leather kydex belts on order which should arrive in a few weeks. They are made of two pieces of belt leather with a strip of kydex sandwiched between. I'm hoping they will prevent the sagging problem.
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I agree it may be body shape. I still have some belt sag with a very stiff belt due to that slight chest slippage down to my belt buckle, and no butt thingy going on. I tug on my pants getting up or after some movement w/ gun or no. Just like I see alot of other (ahem) middle aged men pulling up their pants frequently, except those who go that extra mile with belt and suspenders, but dang hot here for suspenders. I just am used to dragging up occaisionally, which is actually easier with a stiff belt than an old soft belt.
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+1 for the Looper belt. Just call the number on their website and place order over phone. I got mine in about 4 days.
I'm a new guy here and this thread caught my eye...I have exactly the same issues with exactly the same holsters. The Heritage is fine except the Kydex clips dig into me after a while and the VM is great with leather loops but the slippery leather slips, slides and sags.
Seems to me a better solution would be a VMII style holster with a rough side and leather loops anyone know of a maker?
Question what is moleskin? And wear is the moleskin store or how does one catch a mole, I could probably figure out how to skin it. And does anyone know of a way to attach it to a VMII without ruining the VMII for re-sale?
In the meantime I've been going OWB instead of IWB, but of course that presents other carry challenges. There are times and places where only IWB is going to work.
I found this site while Googling some of my "holster" challenges. I carry a Kahr PM9, Glock G27 & G29 and Kimber Compact CDP
Maybe moles like peanut butter.
Actually I would try the footcare section in a place like Wal Mart or a pharmacy. Dr Scholl's makes some. A podiatrist or medical supply might have some better stuff.
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I have found that my only holster sagging problems (assuming you're starting with a good holster) were because of a 'cheap' belt...
A good instructor's belt or a firm leather (Beltman) belt will make your problem go away...OMO
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