Crossbreed Holster Review Part 2

Crossbreed Holster Review Part 2

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    Crossbreed Holster Review Part 2

    This is the second half of my review on the Crossbreed Supertuck Holster. For that missed the first part of the review you can find it here.

    First let me say that I would recommend this holster to anyone and have already done so.

    Got that out of the way.



    I received my Supertuck on the 8/10 and have been wearing it non stop with my M&P9.

    Once I found the position and cant that worked for me, this holster was very comfortable. It was easy to forget it was there (except for the weight of the weapon).

    The materials have held up ok. I know it hasn't been long enough to really get a good idea of how this holster will hold up, but as of right now everything looks good. With the exception of the clips having sharp edges (explained in first review) I have no complaints about the workmanship.

    I did have one problem that kept resurfacing. I noticed several times that when sitting down the muzzle of my firearm was contacting the seat through my pants. When this happened the firearm was pushed up far enough for the trigger guard to clear the Kydex. This is bad. Real bad. I saw this happen 4 times when sitting down in everything from my car to a wooden chair to a pleather covered booth at a restaurant.

    Needless to say I almost messed myself the first time it happened. After the first instance I started carrying my M&P with the chamber empty. Not at all the way I would prefer, but after this incident I decided it was necessary. The 4th and final time was last Wed. I went out and got into the car and felt the gun rise out of the holster. Sure enough the trigger guard was out and the trigger was in the open. I promptly went back in the house and took off the holster. I am now back to carrying my 642. Needless to say I have sent an email to the folks at CB and asked for instructions on how to return the holster.

    Now let me say that there are many people that love this holster and wear it daily. I believe this to be a good holster. I think the problem I have seen maybe due to my carry position and my body style. I think the problem could be fixed by making the Kydex portion of the holster longer to cover the muzzle.

    Again, I would recommend this holster to anyone and have already done so. If you are looking for an IWB holster this may be the one for you.

    Finally let me say thanks to the the folks over at Crossbreed and how nice it is to have a two week guarantee on a holster. I think we all have enough holsters that were one hit wonders.
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    Thank you for your review. Your problem is one of the few things I have been concerned with about the Crossbreed design. Unlike Comp-tac or Tucker's hybrids, all SuperTuck's appear to come with kydex that only covers the main body of the gun and not the entire front of the slide/barrel. This can be good in that multiple guns may fit the same holster even though they have different slide lengths, but bad (like in your case) where the exposed end of the slide permits it to be pushed up out of the holster defeating retention.

    Crossbreed should consider modifying their design. There are a couple different ideas that may work to help with this problem. The most obvious would be to lengthen the kydex portion to cover the front of the slides. This may require one or two additional rivets and maybe two or three inches of kydex. Another idea that might work would be to design adjustable retention through the use of chicago screws and a small bit of rubber tubing. To do this right they would need to change slightly how they press the kydex so that it would have a tighter fit that can be then adjusted using the screws.

    Sorry, for your problems with your holster. I'm expecting my SuperTuck to come soon so I'll post my own experiences with mine. Thank you for sharing yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG E View Post
    Now let me say that there are many people that love this holster and wear it daily. I believe this to be a good holster.
    I know of at least 5 people personally that wear this holster on a daily basis and swear by them.

    I bought this holster so that I could carry my G19 or a G26. I carry at 3:00 to 3:30 (max). I feel awkward drawing at 4:00 or SOB. Unfortunately, I couldn't get the holster to sit right for me. When I would finally get the cant right, the leather piece would catch the top of my thigh. By adjusting it so it didn't dig in, I would screw up the cant.

    Needless to say, I contacted Mark and let him know I was having issues and he was very helpful. After trying some of the suggestions I got from him and others, I gave up on the holster. In retrospect, I could have made some cuts into the leather, but I figured that would be altering the intended design.

    I did not experience the issues you describe, however, I think it is a fine holster. Both Glocks concealed very well with it. I just couldn't get it to work for me at 3:00. As a company, they were courteous and stood behind their guarantee without being abrasive about it. If the opportunity presents itself, I would do business with them again.
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    I was just now sitting in my office and got a call from the front saying that I had a package come in. That's always my first clue it's gun related. If the ladies see something that has holster or NRA on it, they call me right away to pick it up. So I went up and low and behold my Crossbreed I ordered.

    Unfortunately, they made a mistake and molded it for the wrong gun. I called up Mark and he said that it looks like they sent me a holster for a 229 and not a 239. He said to send it back and they'll make me the right holster. Hopefully it'll be made soon and I'll have it shortly.

    Here I got all excited...
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    I received my Crossbreed SuperTuck for the S&W M&P today. I have worn it since I opened the mail. So far I am very pleased with it. I can't wait until it is broken in. I wore it to Texas Roadhouse tonight and found it very comfortable. I am wearing it with the M&P 9c tonight and I will try my full size M&P later this week.

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    So far mine has worked great on my PM9. But with the PM9, the barrel is not extending past the Kydex. If it did, I could see where it might cause a problem.
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    Get yourself an Mtac by Comp Tac and you won't have this problem of the exposed muzzle. If you want to carry more than one length slide, order the one for the longer slide. My G19 and G 26 work great in the same holster made for the G19. The muzzle end of the holster is not open, so the gun's muzzle can't be pushed up and allow the gun to rise in the holster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sass20485 View Post
    Get yourself an Mtac by Comp Tac and you won't have this problem of the exposed muzzle. If you want to carry more than one length slide, order the one for the longer slide. My G19 and G 26 work great in the same holster made for the G19. The muzzle end of the holster is not open, so the gun's muzzle can't be pushed up and allow the gun to rise in the holster.
    No offense to Big E, but he is the first person to ever have this issue that I know of. There are currently thousands (no exagerration, we ship 75-100 rigs a week) of CrossBreed rigs out there and Big E is the first to experience this that I know of. That's why we have the two-week-try-it free gaurantee, which we happily honored for Big E. If it doesn't work for you, let us know within two weeks and we'll buy it back. Including shipping and no 20% restocking fee (mtac).

    Then there's the lifetime warranty, even after the two weeks, if anything goes wrong with your holster, we'll repair or replace it.
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    Thanks for the great service Mark. I don't see how someone can't end up satisfied.
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    I have to say that I have never had that issue with the Crossbreed. I wear mine a fair amount. Eveyone is built different - so the bending and so forth and depending on the position carried - a lot of factors. But at least one can get their money back - including shipping. Not too bad a deal to be able to essentially try one for free.

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    Got my CROSSBREED HOLSTER yesterday. Tried it out as soon as I could and found a couple of minor glitches.

    First the "J" Hooks I asked for and were indeed mounted as requested don't work like the ones on my Blade-Tech IWB. These keep slipping down dragged by the weight of the Sig P226 for which I purchased the holster. I just now changed to the "C" Clips. The next thing that I discovered is that With the rig in place (with the original "J" hooks yesterday) and my belt cinched....the holster is waaaaay too TIGHT to allow any kind of draw without dislocating my shoulder. ***, over?

    FINALLY with the print was minimized under my UNtucked Polo shirt, I have no idea how it is supposed to be tucked in. I'll investigate this tonight and repost later.
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    Crossbreed

    I just ordered one for my sp101. I think the design will distribute the weight of the Ruger (25 oz) very well. A buddy of mine has had one for over a year with NO complaints for his XD 9. I can't wait to try it with the 357.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExSoldier View Post
    Got my CROSSBREED HOLSTER yesterday. Tried it out as soon as I could and found a couple of minor glitches.

    First the "J" Hooks I asked for and were indeed mounted as requested don't work like the ones on my Blade-Tech IWB. These keep slipping down dragged by the weight of the Sig P226 for which I purchased the holster. I just now changed to the "C" Clips. The next thing that I discovered is that With the rig in place (with the original "J" hooks yesterday) and my belt cinched....the holster is waaaaay too TIGHT to allow any kind of draw without dislocating my shoulder. ***, over?

    FINALLY with the print was minimized under my UNtucked Polo shirt, I have no idea how it is supposed to be tucked in. I'll investigate this tonight and repost later.
    Ha sounds familiar.

    I approached it this way.

    Assemble your pants belt and holster before you put them on. It took awhile for me to get the position just right. Put on your pants with out the gun in the holster and then cinch everything down. Holster the weapon and then stuff your shirt down in your pants and between the holster and the waist line. Easier said than done.

    I was also able to tuck my shirt almost all the way in before holstering. Everything but around the holster. Then I would holster and tuck the shirt in the rest of the way. It takes a little rearranging to get a straight gig line and a smooth tuck job.

    I also noticed that my belt really has to be cinched down tight to get a good result whether I was tucked or not.

    Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG E View Post
    Ha sounds familiar.

    I approached it this way.

    Assemble your pants belt and holster before you put them on. It took awhile for me to get the position just right. Put on your pants with out the gun in the holster and then cinch everything down. Holster the weapon and then stuff your shirt down in your pants and between the holster and the waist line. Easier said than done.

    I was also able to tuck my shirt almost all the way in before holstering. Everything but around the holster. Then I would holster and tuck the shirt in the rest of the way. It takes a little rearranging to get a straight gig line and a smooth tuck job.

    I also noticed that my belt really has to be cinched down tight to get a good result whether I was tucked or not.

    Hope this helps.
    It sure does help...A LOT. So far I've been wearing the rig and gun just around the house underneath a work polo. Managed to tuck it in and the print is pretty bad...but the draw is easier. The holster isn't binding on the gun the way it seemed to yesterday. I'm wondering if that problem was caused by the cinch I had to get to keep the "J" Hooks secure. (Note: I have new respect for the ladies of the old times who wore corsets!)

    As I sit now in front of the computer the gun is resting comfortably at about a 3:30 position. I might juggle that a bit. The shirt I'm wearing is just a bit too snug from dryer shrinkage. So perhaps if I wore a shirt that is button down and has a fuller "cut" there won't be the print problems. I'll post back later on how this goes. The new leather feels abrasive on those tender love handles...read LIFTING BARS.... and the muzzle area is bearing down on my siatic nerve which is not good. I guess it means more juggling the position. I'm pretty happy with the concept and the overall fit and finish of the rig. I think it's just going to take some "getting used to..."

    But this has got to work. When the weather is hot in South Florida...and humid...I shove a S&W M642 into a Mika pocket holster. That's a fine rig but I feel compromised by the lack of capacity and the lack of accuracy beyond a very limited range. Under normal circumstances around town it's not a problem. But every once in awhile, when I'm out with my wife she gets a bug to go someplace and shop and sometimes those places require a route that crosses or skirts questionable areas. Or the destination is someplace like the Florida keys and again....I'm not comfortable with my compromise solution (the "Smith" M642) to the heat. I'll keep y'all posted.
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    I've had a Crossbreed for a couple months now for my CDP. The only ***** I have about them is the clips. The j clips pull on your pants and the c clips do a number on your belt not to mention a 1 1/2" gun belt don't fit. I ordered standard clips from another maker and have loved it ever since.

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