max-con snaps help, before I snap

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    Would dampining the leathe loops, adding a small shim to increase thickness to the belt and then snapping the loops over the belt/shim and letting things dry work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete10 View Post
    A "one way snap" or "pull the dot" is a snap that originated for marine use, on boat canvas. The intent is that you face the "to open direction" leeward so that the wind would not undo your canvas. They work by means of a tab inside the snap that prevents the snap from being closed or opened in any direction but the intended.

    Most holster makers use them. And the ones that conform are fantastic for holster use. I found them to be inconsistent in the amount of force used to close and open (especially open). Some snaps delivered were almost impossible to open once closed (even in the intended direction). After a few complaints from customers, I started using normal snaps.
    Hint: look inside the female snap on a snap that's difficult to open, or close and note the orientation of the spring wire inside the snap. One way snaps that are hard to manipulate, almost always have the spring oriented where the gap between the two spring ends is lined up between 11 and 1 O'clock when looking at the female snap with the inside tab being 6 O'clock.

    The fix: take the point of an awl and rotate the gap in the spring so it is closer to the 6 O'clock position and then take a pair of side cutters and crimp the tab that traps the spring so that it keeps it from rotating. A drop of machine oil, or a little wax on the snap and your good to go.

    The reason: the two ends of the wire spring enclosed within the female snap are clipped to length during the manufacturing process and sometimes have a burr on the ends where they are clipped. When the gap in the spring is oriented at 12 O'clock on the female snap, any burr that is present can bite into the male stud as the snap closes, which keeps the spring from spreading open to accept the stud. When the gap in the spring is oriented more towards the other end at six O'clock, the pressure of closing is on the bend of the wire spring and not on the sharp edges of the spring ends. Normal snaps do not have the locking tab of the one-ways and since they are snapped shut straight down instead of rolled on, they are not subject to the same opening and closing problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. Kanaley View Post
    Hint: look inside the female snap on a snap that's difficult to open, or close ...
    Tony,
    Thanks for the tip. I may try them again with this info. I have had pretty good luck with normal snaps, but the pull the dots were great when I had a set that worked well. This little guy certainly appreciates the help from a "not so little guy"!

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    Are they "directional" snaps? Check for a dot indicating the direction to snap/unsnap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jarhead79 View Post
    I'd contact Gary for a new loop.
    +1 New loop.

    My MS VMII had this problem w/Rafter S belt. Called MS but they said the problem was with the belt! Told them I had 5 other VMII with no problem with that belt-still claimed it was the belt.

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    Just to follow up.

    I have finally figured out how to make this work. What I did was change the way I put the holster on. Instead of putting in down in the waistband all the way and then trying to snap it, I put it in the waistband part way and then stick the loop under the belt and pull it over the belt until the snap reaches the other part of the snap and snap it. It's hard to explain but the belt is held in the loop differently this way. The back of the holster is still part way out of the waistband. After snapping the front, I push the back all the way down and snap it without a problem. This way makes it a breeze to get the holster on. No more cussing at the darn thing.

    Thanks for all the help.

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    I'll try that as I have similar issues with the snaps. However I love the holster................
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