Kramer Undershirt Holster

Kramer Undershirt Holster

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    Kramer Undershirt Holster

    http://www.kramerleather.com/products.cfm?categoryID=21

    Anyone wear this or has worn it in the past? I would like to try it for when I need something other than a IWB or OWD holster.

    This would be for my XD45 Service or Colt Commander.

    Seems like a good quality item.
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    "Anyone wear this or has worn it in the past?" Yes

    "Seems like a good quality item." - It isn't

    "I would like to try it for when I need something other than a IWB or OWD holster." Don't

    My nickname for it is the Kramer ConfiDead shirt.

    Because you can be confident that you will be quite dead if you need your firearm in any time less than a half a minute.

    It is intended for extremely deep cover only.

    It is also uncomfortable and anything but an airweight will pull down on you while the other side rides up.
    You'll also need to wash it all the time or use a lot of deoderant in the summer time.
    Kramer makes nice holsters.
    The shirt is a piece of crap though.
    I tossed mine into the trash.
    There are much better ones out there.
    BTW I have NOTHING at all against Kramer except for that shirt from Hell.

    Just my personal opinion.
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    So QK could you please tell us what your real opinion of this product is???

    I am sick of you beating around the bush like that.

    I am assuming that you would not purchase another one.
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    Take a look at this thread:

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...-shirt+holster

    fed_wif_a_sig gives a very good account of the UC Comfort brand t-shirt holsters, and there is video!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazzaerexys View Post
    Take a look at this thread:

    http://www.defensivecarry.com/vbulle...-shirt+holster

    fed_wif_a_sig gives a very good account of the UC Comfort brand t-shirt holsters, and there is video!
    Yeah this looks like a good deal too. I need something for very deep concealment. I would hate for the T to not hold the gun snugly.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    "Anyone wear this or has worn it in the past?" Yes

    "Seems like a good quality item." - It isn't

    "I would like to try it for when I need something other than a IWB or OWD holster." Don't

    My nickname for it is the Kramer ConfiDead shirt.

    Because you can be confident that you will be quite dead if you need your firearm in any time less than a half a minute.

    It is intended for extremely deep cover only.

    It is also uncomfortable and anything but an airweight will pull down on you while the other side rides up.
    You'll also need to wash it all the time or use a lot of deoderant in the summer time.
    Kramer makes nice holsters.
    The shirt is a piece of crap though.
    I tossed mine into the trash.
    There are much better ones out there.
    BTW I have NOTHING at all against Kramer except for that shirt from Hell.

    Just my personal opinion.
    That's what I'm asking for-- opinions. I appreciate the comments. I assumed if Kramer sold it, it would be quality stuff. I'll wait to buy this until I actually see it.
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    Greg (Kramer) is a nice guy and makes excellent horsehide holsters. That said, I will tell you the same thing I told him about his Kramer Confidant t-shirt holster...... ITS JUNK. Totally worthless and I wouldn't even take the free one the agency was giving. Avoid it at all cost and spend the extra money on others designs that are better.
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    fed wif a sig is/was a true working professional and he carried daily for a living.
    He has some excellent past postings here on DefensiveCarry concerning this particular mode of carry and what works in "real life" and what does not work.
    I would term him EXPERT regarding Deep Cover Carry.
    I was hoping that he would post a comment in this thread.

    There are very few products that I totally slam...the Kramer ConfiDead happens to be one of them.
    It is every bit as bad as Kramer holsters are good.
    And Kramer holsters are very good.
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    Don't kick me to the curb quite yet brother.....I wish I could retire, LOL. (Oh and thanks for the kind works, but I'm just a guy whos used the system a lil longer than others).
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    Haven't tried the UC shirt yet, but the 5.11 holster shirt I tried sucked big time. If you do a search, you should reviews on holster shirts some of us have tried.
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    UC Shirt...

    I've read great reviews about the UC shirt/holster many times on this site & thought I'd like to try one for occasional use. My wife has been prodding me for one more Christmas gift, so I asked her to order one.

    I advised her that I had read about their delivery times not being reliable so she could find something else if that was the case. But, she ordered one early last week & got a confirmation email that it would be delivered in 4-5 days. So, after the 5 day time frame, she got an email stating that is was out of stock & would be delivered when available again...no date given. Will that be this year or when in 2008?

    I might every well enjoy & use the product, but there is no excuse for doing business that way. If the product has been in short supply before, they should indicate on the website that their delivery times are not reliable.

    I hope that it's a good & useful product, but doing business that way sucks! Big time!

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    Sh00ter....the #1 topic of conversation I have with AL each and every time we talk is about delievery times. I know the frustration and have personally waited months for a shirt to be delievered. He is swamped with business, and is growing and the manufactor he uses is one of the best but even though UC Comfort does good business, it is the smallest company the manufactor deals with and their orders are done last. It truly sucks and I can tell you this, Al is comming up with new ideas for many (ie a bra holster for women that is receiving rave reviews ... but not from me for obvious reasons) but the products are IMO the best on the market. I wish you well on your order.
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    Wink

    Hey Fed...Did I give you an early retirement?

    I remembered that your personal profile read Fed LEO Retired Soldier.

    I guess I remembered it wrong as I see now that it reads Fed LEO/RetiredSoldier.

    So I guess it's not Fed LEO Retired/Soldier.

    Sorry!
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    UC Comfort...

    Fed,

    Thanks for the comment. I run two businesses of my own. I don't understand how some people get away with what they do as far as customer service is concerned. If I ran my businesses like some do, I'd probably go under.

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    I've used one for years.

    I have one of Kramer's undershirts.
    I have not found it to be bad quality at all.
    It is for very deep cover and you are not going to be a quick draw with it, but when you need TOTAL concealment, I find that it works well. I live in Arizona and have used it in the hot summertime. It needs to be ordered one size smaller than your normal t-shirts. I wear a v-neck t-shirt under it. The holster holds the weapon way up under your armpit. There are two modifications that you need to make.
    1. Sew the bottom of the pocket shut on your non-weapon side so you can carry an extra mag there.

    2. Cut the velcro straps to the correct length and loop the very end of the strap and sew it. This gives you something to grab a hold of in order to pull the strap out of the way if you need to draw the weapon.

    It works better for a j-frame than for autos due to the velcro strap.
    I use it because it's an a-shirt design. With a t-shirt under it, it doesn't get dirty or stinky. While I change my t-shirt every day (I hope everyone else does too!), I wash the holster shirt every 4 or 5 times I wear it.

    Some of the other brands are "full" t-shirts requiring daily laundering. At $50+ each, I can't afford it. I guess if you only wear them occassionaly it would be ok.

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