Cant ?? for you holster makers

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    Cant ?? for you holster makers

    I have a Galco 3 slot cop holster for my full size 1911 and I am getting a commander model 1911 and am going to have a custom holster made for it and was wondering if anyone knew the cant of the cop series Galco holster? I might be able to post a pic of it on in a few min.
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    looks like a 15 degree maybe a little more to a 20 but most holsters offer 15 at most

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    I guess I won't be posting any pics, everytime i plug in the USB cable for the camera my putter freezes up.
    The holster Kevin (K&DHolsters) made for my SP101 has a 20+ deg cant, it seems as if the way I wear it(at about 5 O'clock) the can't helps.

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    As a holster user and as I have mentioned before - I like generous cant. It facilitates my draw and - keeps the gun from printing too easily to rear with the grips.

    I like 10 as a general - 15 and even 20 are good too. My SIG rig is around 10 which suits but the SP rig, like Bruces, is close to 20 which suits the gun just great.
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    Howdy!

    I am not familiar w/ the Galco model that you mentioned, but most of the factory strong side holsters that I've looked at tend to run around 15 degrees, give or take.
    For a holster intended to be worn at 5:00, 20 degrees would be a bare minimum. My Max-Con V and VI are designed to be worn in that position and they are raked more like 25 degrees. This tucks the grip area in nicely against the body, and allows a smooth presentation.
    I hope this helps at least a little. Good luck!

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    Gary makes a good (and on reflection) obvious point.

    I carry OWB 3.00 to 3.30 - and so my 10 is enough, well for SIG and the 20 is great for SP. But of course as you go ''round the clock'' - it is logical to increase cant.

    If I was favoring a 5 o'clock carry I am sure 25 would be very beneficial.

    I was given an SOB Horseshoe leather rig for a 1911 - which means my BHP sits nicely too- which must cant close to 45. Very necessary in order to achieve good grip aquisition and so smooth and fast draw.

    I haven't used the SOB because it just ain't too comfortable.

    I doubt I'd want a vertical rig to be further back than ''appendix'' - after that cant logically wants increased as you move to rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry
    I carry OWB 3.00 to 3.30 - and so my 10 is enough...I haven't used the SOB because it just ain't too comfortable.
    Exactly what I have found too Chris. I carry the same place, 3.00 to 3.30, and prefer the 10 cant. In fact, when I ordered the CQC/S from Alessi, I requested a 10 cant, which he is going to do.

    I've been meaning to inquire about this, but have any of you noticed that a lot of us guys wear our belts higher in the back than in the front? I've noticed that a lot and I happen to be one of them, but that does add a bit more cant to a holster. I think that's why I prefer a 10 cant over the 15 cant; the 15 at 3.00 plus the slight slope of the belt, makes me have to really flex my wrist to get a grip.

    And one other thing Chris, how'd you do that "" symbol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Brommeland
    Howdy!

    I am not familiar w/ the Galco model that you mentioned
    Here is a pic


    I find the 5 0'clock position better cause it tucks the wepon in behind my "lovehandles" and cuts printing down. Plus it "feels better for me to draw from that position. The only thing is you defently need a good CCW belt when carring at the 5 position with a high ride holster, I'm going to order a new belt when I get the new holster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruces45
    Here is a pic
    I find the 5 0'clock position better cause it tucks the wepon in behind my "lovehandles" and cuts printing down. Plus it "feels better for me to draw from that position. The only thing is you defently need a good CCW belt when carring at the 5 position with a high ride holster, I'm going to order a new belt when I get the new holster.
    Bruce,
    Although I don't carry at 5:00, another advantage of that position is better concealment. If the wind blows your cover garment open, like a vest or open, button-up shirt, a 3:00 position is far more likely to disclose your gun than the 5:00 position. I suspect you could even open your cover garment and say, "see no gun" and they couldn't see it in the 5:00 position if you are facing them.

    Oh yeah, in the pic on the left, with that much cant, I have to really flex my wrist to get a grip on the gun.

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    Well, the Cop 3 slot is a very canted or angled holster...depending on the gun its made for it can run as much as 22 deg's. For a commander you dont need as much cant as a Govt model. The added cant on the fullsize gun helps the long muzzle clear leather during presentation, at least for some people.
    Id say stick with 15 or 20 deg's for it. Remember the farther back you wear it the more most people will need.
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    And one other thing Chris, how'd you do that "" symbol?
    Ron - the degree symbol is one of many on the ASCII chart - 255 symbols which include the usual ones accessible from your keyboard. If you do some searching you should be able to find a pic to show it, with all the numbers of each. I keep a printed out copy handy as a reminder.

    The degree symbol is 186 - to bring it up hold down ALT key and on number pad enter 0186 - and voila hopefully - !!

    169 - another example is copyright - ALT 0169 - ..... and so on.... other stuff too like - ?
    P.S. Chris, you don't happen to play the guitar do you?
    I used to ''play'' with one Ron - same as piano but never got good - I do tho love the instrument, played classically.
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    Well, the reason I asked, speaking of holster cants, is I have never met anybody that I had so much in common with. We both:

    enjoy designing and building electronic circuits
    enjoy shooting immensely and shoot regularly
    think the Sig 226 is about the best SD gun made
    prefer 9mm for our carry gun
    have custom holsters with the exact same 10 cant
    wear our gun in an OWB at the same position 3:00 - 3:30
    used to play the guitar but not necessarily good
    play the piano but not necessarily good
    spend too much time on gun boards
    spell check before posting

    And that's why cant is so important - to stay on the subject.

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    Hahaha - I ''cant'' always stay on subject Ron - as some may have noticed!

    Indeed - I daresay were we not so far apart geographically, we'd have a blast sharing time together. All you gotta do now is show me a pic to prove you are nowhere near as ugly as me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by P95Carry
    Hahaha - I ''cant'' always stay on subject Ron - as some may have noticed!

    Indeed - I daresay were we not so far apart geographically, we'd have a blast sharing time together. All you gotta do now is show me a pic to prove you are nowhere near as ugly as me!
    Oh yeah, we're almost the same age - I'll be 60 December 22, and we both drift off subject.

    "I "cant" always stay on subject" I got it, I got it.

    I can show you a pic, but I don't think it will prove anything on the looks scale. I'll see if I can find a digital rendition.

    I noticed that you didn't deny that you spell check, does that mean I guessed right?

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    Darn - missed the spell check question.

    In fact no I don't, never have. I do tho scan thru before posting to try and catch typos and errors - often still finding some slip thru. Often slip back in to edit too when I see a glaring error.

    I don't really trust spell checkers that much anyways, plus - lasya$$ is more like it
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