Let me start off by introducing myself. I'm new to DefensiveCarry.com. I'm a pretty large guy..6'4" 325lbs, in search of the right holster for my G23C. I have tried some of the IWB like Crossbreed holsters, and a few other off the shelves like Galco, and Bianchi. Hated them...I now know that IWB are not for me, unless it was small enough to tuck and not feel all that extra leather. Right now, I'm trying out a Galco Jaqui slide Jak202. It's not bad except the back of the slide tends to dig into my side a bit when I carry. I tried the OWB and it didn't quite fit my concealing needs. They seem to hang off my belt a bit (GUN BELT ON ORDER), and that's not good for concealment. I also have a Blackhawk Serpa, this works great, it just requires me to wear extra clothes.. So...I have come to the conclusion that OWB but between the belt and pants is my way to go, but I need something (a piece of leather or flap) that protects my skin from the back of the slide that keeps wanting to dig into me, and that will keep open when I unholster. The Jaqui or (yaqui) collapses everytime, and is a bit too small to distribute the weight enough for my comfort. I also have a Para Ordinance P-13 Limited that I carry with a Galco Avenger which works nicely in the winter and a coat..But my G23C is my main carry piece..I know I'm being picky as hell, but I am hoping for someone with similar problems that could possibly shed some light on my dilema. I have found that the 4-430 position is most comfortable for me...any suggestions guys?