Concealment T??? Any thoughts?

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    How about "thunder Wear"?
    "The sword dose not cause the murder, and the maker of the sword dose not bear sin" Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac 11th century

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    Greetings ya'al and I know this is my first post but this happens to be a subject of great personal interest.

    I bought my first Kramer Confident well over 14 years ago. It sucked, had to be tailored to make it fit the person and adjusted to fit the body.

    My reaction was to start making my own for myself and others. This continued till I discovered a Under Cover Comfort shirt. http://www.uccomfort.com/3XHHolster.html

    To give you a little explaination, I currently work in an enviroment that requires no display of a weapon, till its needed, and on a daily basis I stuff a Sig P229, two mags, a pair of cuffs, Surefire flashlight and small knife under a dress shirt with no fear of it being ovserved.

    A t-shirt is my primary means of carry, well over 14 hours a day, to the point that the top three buttons of almost all my shirts have been redone with the button sewed ontop and snaps behind them.

    If you like total concealment (I have NEVER been spoted even entering the White House once) and reasonably quick access, a good t-shirt rig works. But the only one I can recomend is the UC Comfort.

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    Hi Steve - and welcome
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter
    Pre Shrunk cotton is still going to stretch under gun weight.
    There is no way that it could not pull down on the weapon side.
    It would be almost impossible for even an extra heavy weight cotton T~Shirt to defy the law of gravity.
    I can't see how that could possibly hold any full weight weapon.
    Maybe an AirWeight J~Frame or a small poly framed .380 size firearm.
    I think a fully loaded Sigma 40 would be pushing it a bit.

    With a stoked Sigma .40 you'll likely have the very same problems as with the Kramer Confident undershirt.
    The Kramer Confident Shirt (By The Way) is intended for "Deep Cover" concealment only. It is SLOW to draw from.

    Those problems would be:
    Extremely slow access to your firearm.

    The Confident needs to be worn very tight & it's still Modestly uncomfortable when a full weight weapon pulls down on one side.

    If you ever need your firearm in a hurry you will need to rip the buttons off your over~shirt or buy their special "rip open" shirts.

    You'll need to launder it probably at least every few days or they get quite tinky in the summertime.

    You would be probably be better off buying a vertical shoulder holster with nice wide shoulder straps & just wearing that under your top shirt.
    You can buy a "generic fit" ballistic nylon shoulder rig for about the same money as the Concealment T & at least your firearm will stay put & it will be secure.
    From looking at it and other holsters i would say Qk is spot on in his thinking

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    TY P9, the greating is appriciated. I will attempt to contain my "opinions" but this was a subject that is near and dear to my heart.
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    fed - there's a thread ''LE Roll Call" - if you can find it so let us know your professional info - well, loosely of course

    Here-

    http://www.combatcarry.com/vbulletin...ead.php?t=6141
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    I did a review of the 5.11 holster shirt. Bottom line I was not impressed.

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    I wasnt impressed with the 5-11 shirt either Rocky. Had the same problems. If your interested, try the UC Comfort. It pretty much solves all the problems of the Kramer and others. He's based in Detroit and a brother officer and did it right. Listed to advice too (thus the added soft trama plate pouch in the front).
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    Looks oK, but my concern with this design would be concealability. Looks like the grip and gun outline might be too defined , even under a shirt.

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    I have a deep concealment holster similar to that shirt. http://www.action-direct.com/234.htm It is not comfortable with barrels much over 3 inches, at least for me. The gun is held very secure, and you can add a strap over as a "thumb break."

    I have not filed tested it full as of yet. I will be picking up my Glock 30 on Sat, then I can put it though it paces. The testing I have done with my wifes HK USP compact have proven satisfactory. If you ware an outer shirt unbuttoned about three from the top, access is good.
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    First I must appologize about bad typing tonight, I seperated my shoulder on duty today. Rocky, I will tell you that the UC Comfort can be used to carry four guns, but your right, if you use the two front holsters (as holsters) then the grips will poke out. The main set up is designed for total user friendly. The underarm sections can be used for holsters or cuff case. The front sections work well in holding mags/knives/asp battons. Once my arm is working again, which might be up to 7 months depending on if i need surgery, I'll do a full photo review and set up discription on the rig.
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    Shoulder - ouch! Hope not your gun arm.

    I hope too the other guy came off worse!!!
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    Thankfully no. The hardest part was taking off my UC Comfort Tshirt when I got back. (Ok it does have a down side). Wife had to stand above me and wiggle off the tight spandex material and if i wasnt in such pain, it would have been funny. Doc thinks I'll need surgery, and its supected I'll be out for atleast a couple months maybe more. Which royaly sucks. No gym time, No MMA, and worse yet, No Harley. As for shooting, guess I'll get plenty of single hand range time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fed_wif_a_sig
    guess I'll get plenty of single hand range time.
    "When life hands you lemons..."

    Shoulder surgery really sucks. Been there, got the scar (and stainless steel screw). And it's my rifle shootin' shoulder, too
    But, do your therapy and eventually it'll be right.
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    And no Harley too eh fed - oh my - not a happy event at all. My left sho was all screwed up Oct 2004 - and not as bad as yours - not much fun and it's still weaker. But I am 'ol phart status so that don't help any

    Commiserations and hope it'll mend well, with or without butchering! I expect you have way more youth on your side than me!
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