August 22nd, 2008 03:26 PM
I find with a decent holster IWB works great as it is more concealable with more clothing. I do not find it uncomfortable.
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August 22nd, 2008 04:14 PM
Checked out his website and his products do look first rate. Yep, the P2000 is what I am shooting my sights for. Do plan on going to a couple shops here in the area within the next couple of weeks. Am interested in the V2 with the LEM Trigger.
Originally Posted by KenInColo
Do you folks buy a pair of pants that are a size or two larger? If you do, wouldn't it give you a sloppy appearance?
August 22nd, 2008 04:26 PM
I have been carrying concealed for more than 30 years and have found some methods/modes of carry that, for me, are quite comfortable. One I will share with you is a Ruger SP-101 in a Comp-tac 2 O'clock Carry. Other wide called "appendix carry" I have found this to be quite comfortable, concealable, and easily accessible.
Of course, I have an excellent gun belt and that helps a great deal. FWIW!
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August 22nd, 2008 04:57 PM
I carry a Sig Sauer P-226 in a Smart Carry holster. It's in the waistband, below the waist line, I can draw and acquire a target very quickly with it. It is definitely the most concealable holster on the market today. I work in a job where I would prefer a great deal not to be detected as CCing. Go to Gun holsters concealed by SmartCarry concealed holsters
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August 22nd, 2008 05:34 PM
I would suggest you get one of the FIST or DM Bullard IWB/OWB Convertibles for your new CC.
August 22nd, 2008 08:00 PM
I have multi-dozens (more than I ever thought I'd own) holsters...those are the ones I use...the 'box' is another thread.
I have tried OWB's and there are a few I can work with, but I am so used to IWB's that I have trouble with the OWB's now.
I find my (mostly) Fist IWB holsters very comfortable, providing superb concealment, and very secure (even if you fall down the bleachers at a rodeo...another story...).
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August 22nd, 2008 08:05 PM
For a heavy gun I prefer IWB. It really helps to have a t-shirt or undershirt between you and the gun. I get more support with IWB and I dont have to worry as much about lifting my arms above my head and have my holster show.
As others have said, get a good quality IWB holster. I have a K&D Defender for my XD which is wide so it gives good support over a larger area. I use Fist #14 for my Ruger GP100 4 inch bbl. Its a heavy gun and I have no problem carrying it comfortably IWB.
Also I feel it is more secure and less likely to be jolted loose in a confrontation.
August 22nd, 2008 10:36 PM
My personal opinion is OWB as a first choice if your personal mode of dress will allow it.
IWB if not.
There are some fantastic IWB rigs being made...so get a good one if you decide to carry IWB.
A good holster makes all the difference in IWB being tolerable.
August 22nd, 2008 11:42 PM
IMO, IWB is good anytime, anywhere, any season. With the right equipment and mindset, IWB is the best method for CC. Ever walked into a restaurant when the temp outside was 30°, and when you got to your table you realize the 85° inside temperature and had to shed that jacket? Comfort? Do you really want to be with your life saver.....or would you rather leave it in the car? If there's a will, there's a way. Learning to live with a little bit of discomfort will likely prepare you for tomorrow......or being a hostage in a bank heist.
Originally Posted by Cody
August 23rd, 2008 12:07 AM
Off-duty I carry IWB mostly. Sometimes I go OWB in the cooler months. Most of my pants are 1 inch big in the waist to allow for the firearm. I carry my G27 most of the time in a Milt Sparks Versa Max II as of lately. I also carry the G27, G23 or G19 in an MTAC sometimes.
They are both very comfortable. I prefer the VMII because the leather straps keep it from sliding on my belt.
Give it a good try. It may take some getting used to, but it becomes very comfy with the right set up. A good belt is important as well.
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August 23rd, 2008 02:47 PM
My P2K is a v3 (DA/SA) 9mm and I love it. It took me less than 50 rounds to be able to draw & get that first DA shot exactly where I wanted it. I would however, like to try a LEM.
Originally Posted by Cody
On the Handgun Talk section of HKPRO Forums - Powered by vBulletin everyone just raves about the LEM trigger.
I bought mine at Sportsman's Warehouse last may for $739.00. I think that CDNN CDNN Sports, Inc. - Hand Guns has them for much less though. You have to call for prices. CDNN has the best selection of H&K stuff (mags. lights) on the internet & their prices can't be beat.
I'm 5'10" & 175#. My waist is 34". I have several pair of 36" 'Docker' type pants from when I weighed > 180#, that I wear when I carry IWB; they don't look too baggy but 38" would. Don't get the IWB mag pouch though. An IWB holster & IWB mag pouch would definately require pants 2 sizes larger or more. The mag pouch I use is a Blackhawk OWB CQC for double-stack mags. BLACKHAWK ! BlackHawk CQC Double Row Mag Pouch
I also have a BlackHawk SERPA holster for when I want to carry OWB. Blackhawk makes great products too.
TT Gunleather's IWBs are sorta like copies of Milt Sparks but at 25% le$$. You cannot find Milt Sparks products for less common guns (like the P2K) in gun shops; they have to be ordered from the company and that takes 6+ months. My TTGunleather took 5 & 1/2 weeks.
Hope this helped.
Last edited by KenInColo; August 23rd, 2008 at 02:51 PM.
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August 23rd, 2008 03:53 PM
I carry in Crossbreed IWB Super Tucks 14-18 hours a day...very comfortable AND comforting.
"If" I can wear a long Hawaiian shirt untucked, I strap on my IWB in BETWEEN the belt and OUTSIDE pants. Even more comfortable, yet allows belt to snug in my XD tight to my somewhat overweight frame.
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August 24th, 2008 01:32 AM
I am a med-big guy (6'1", 205) with a 36" waist, pretty average. I comfortably carry my ultra sized (3" barrel) Kimber 1911s appendix style in a GALCO Ultimate Second Amendment Tuckable Holster. It conceals well under any normal sized T Shirt, polo or "camp style" shirt. I have also carried these guns deep cover style with Smartwear/Thunderwear style holsters. I carry anything larger OWB.
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