Heckler & Koch Phantom Holster order

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    Heckler & Koch Phantom Holster order

    I ordered a Heckler & Koch Phantom Modular Holsters for my HK45,
    Right/Left Right Hand, Thumb Safety/Decock Lever Yes, Safety On/Single Action Mode with IWB Over-Hooks.

    What I am confused by during the order process is having to choose how I carry "safty on"

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    Does anyone have this holster or know why when I choose Right handed, my order list "Right/Left Right Hand" and why with the safety on it assumes single action, and that would only be if the hammer was pulled back?

    Thank you!

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    The HK45 can be carried (if so equipped) hammer back, thumb safety on, or hammer down, thumb safety off.

    Pending on which way you want to carry the gun, the safety lever will be in a different position and the holster maker wants to mold the holster to fit the lever in the given position.

    If the hammer is cocked when being carried, the thumb safety should be manually engaged.

    Do you plan on carrying: Cocked and locked single action, or hammer down double action?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    Do you plan on carrying: Cocked and locked single action, or hammer down double action?
    I Plan on Hammer down, and Safety off. The first round would be DA, then the remaining would be SA.

    I think I should call the company and change this order..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassking View Post
    I Plan on Hammer down, and Safety off. The first round would be DA, then the remaining would be SA.

    I think I should call the company and change this order..
    Correct, if you plan on carrying hammer down (DA) for the first shot, you want:

    Yes, Safety Off / Double Action Mode

    Listed as your preference.

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    Thank you JD, I did send an email to the owner, I hope I can get it corrected in time, if not I will have to live with it with safety on.

    Training with the pistol I will just have to make sure my rhythm is always when I pull it out to engage the thumb lever to safety off. Even if the hammer was pulled back, I'd always have to remember to engage the safety lever to off, so I might as well train for that.

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    I have 2 of these holsters. You have the option of safety on or off. The website having you specify DA or SA doesn't make any sense because the position of the hammer is irrelevant in molding the holster. Good luck, let us know your impressions!

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    Thats good to know Bone, I am not sure when they are going to process the order and ship it, but I will provide some feedback on it.

    I am headed out now to a local guy who is finished with a custom holster for my HK45, so I am excited.... it's been a while and I have not carried it CC yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassking View Post
    Thats good to know Bone, I am not sure when they are going to process the order and ship it, but I will provide some feedback on it.

    I am headed out now to a local guy who is finished with a custom holster for my HK45, so I am excited.... it's been a while and I have not carried it CC yet.

    Bought my first one used and it took 20 days from order to delivery for my second one....but, I had to send it back b/c...well....the safety was molded incorrectly

    Custom holster for the HK45?? Nice! Since the holster options for this gun are so scarce, I'd really like to see that!

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    Update: the mfg was able switch the holster specifications to "safety off/double action mode".

    They are about 30 days on current orders.

    The IWB that I was suppose to pickup today, didn't have the support built in to re-holster the pistol. Therefore, I might pass on it, it's been 40 days since he was suppose to make it, but had to put it off due to a local sheriffs office needing him to die all their holsters black.

    I told him I would get back to him, however, I think I should just walk away from it. Number one, I don't want to leave my pistol with anyone again. Number two, after seeing the finished product I was not pleased with the cosmetics of the holster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassking View Post
    Update: the mfg was able switch the holster specifications to "safety off/double action mode".

    They are about 30 days on current orders.

    The IWB that I was suppose to pickup today, didn't have the support built in to re-holster the pistol. Therefore, I might pass on it, it's been 40 days since he was suppose to make it, but had to put it off due to a local sheriffs office needing him to die all their holsters black.

    I told him I would get back to him, however, I think I should just walk away from it. Number one, I don't want to leave my pistol with anyone again. Number two, after seeing the finished product I was not pleased with the cosmetics of the holster.

    RCS always seems to overestimate the delivery time. I was told 30 days, and as I mentioned, I got it in 20.

    Too bad about the custom holster. Enjoy the Phantom, though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassking View Post
    Thank you JD, I did send an email to the owner, I hope I can get it corrected in time, if not I will have to live with it with safety on.

    Training with the pistol I will just have to make sure my rhythm is always when I pull it out to engage the thumb lever to safety off. Even if the hammer was pulled back, I'd always have to remember to engage the safety lever to off, so I might as well train for that.

    Semper Fi
    Jay reads email each and every night. He will respond personally and WILL make it correct on your order. He's one of the best guys when it comes to making people happy with their purchase. Trust me on that.

    Besides, he's about 30 days out on orders so there's plenty of time before production. You don't get charged until the order is complete and shipped.

    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    I have 2 of these holsters. You have the option of safety on or off. The website having you specify DA or SA doesn't make any sense because the position of the hammer is irrelevant in molding the holster. Good luck, let us know your impressions!
    It does make sense. If the hammer is down you can carry safety ON if you choose. You do not have to carry decocked and safety off. Some people decock, then flip safety on. You can also carry condition 1(hammer cocked and safety on). The position of the safety lever is what matters for the mold. He molds the holster around the lever so it cannot be accidently flipped to or from either position. I'm sure you know all that, but specifying single action or double action makes it easier to understand for people who may be confused by the position of the safety. They may see "safety on" and think it's what they want when in fact it is not necessary to have the safety on when you decock the gun, and generally I'd recommend never to carry decocked and locked lol.

    Also note the 3rd option: some people have the LEM trigger option installed and have no safety lever.
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