Blue Jeans With Deep Pockets.........
In my continuing quest for finding the ultimate pocket holster and the ultimate blue jeans, I have come to the realization that there are many jeans in which the pockets (especially front pockets) are just not deep enough to conceal even the smallest of pistols or if they are deep enough, they are made too tight.
In this thread, I will only be discussing jeans as holsters themselves are a personal choice. Cargo pants will also be left out as many people just don't wear them.
Knowing that most CCW holders who partake in pocket carry do so with Ruger LCP, Kel-Tec P3AT, KT P32, S&W 642/442 sized guns as I myself also do, I have tried on MANY different brands of jeans to determine fit and pocket depth. I have left out the Kahr PM9 on purpose as it is just a tad too big and too heavy for front pocket carry.
This discussion also is based upon an average sized male (me), with an average sized waist ( 5' 8 & 190lbs - 34" waist) as obviously when you get into larger size pants, you get larger pockets, so that kind of defeats the purpose of the study and I would look pretty goofy trying on a size 40 jean :wink:
In my opinion, "Regular fit" jeans just do not work for any type of CCW carry as they are just straight cut legs with no give in either the crotch or the seat. Even if you can get the weapon into the pocket, as soon as you bend down, you either jab yourself or the gun prints. And forget about trying to draw from the pocket.
I have found that "Relaxed Fit" jeans offer the best all around wear. Not too loose so that you look like a street thug and not too tight so that you look like a disco era dude.
Lee Jeans - The older style of Lee relaxed fit were not too bad for CCW. They fit well and the pockets were "just deep enough. A P32/P3AT would easily conceal. Recently however, Lee jeans decided to fully restyle their product line and the relaxed fit became a "semi-relaxed" fit and you are lucky if you can even get your hand in the front pocket, nevermind try and draw a weapon from it.
Wrangler Jeans - Wrangler relaxed fit are a bit of an odd duck. The jeans fit well, the pocket depth is also "just deep enough", but the front pockets are cut with a deep "U" type pattern at the top, thus exposing the very tip of the gun butt especially in a 642 or P3AT sized gun. Wrangler rear pockets are also too shallow for anything larger than a P32.
Gap Jeans - Fit well but are styled for younger guys and pockets are way too shallow for our needs.
Lucky Brand Jeans - Again, fit well, but styled for the younger crowd and with that comes less material.
Levis Jeans - 550 series. Well fitting jeans and the front pockets are fairly deep. The upper rear corner of the front pockets do however come farther back than most brands which in turn pulls the pocket tighter. Great for fit, not so great for CCW.
Carhartt Jeans - Relaxed fit is too relaxed for some and regular fit may be a tad too tight for CCW purpose depending on body shape. Carhartt jeans do offer great pocket depth. If they fit you, these are just fine.
*** Gander Mountain Jeans - Gander Mtn has recently changed over from "Guide Series" to their own brand named jeans. They are made in Mexico and I had never given them a second thought until recently. I tried the relaxed fit on and was actually pleasantly surprised. They fit well, AND they front pockets are HUGE. I'm talking easily fit a 442, PM9 (if you wish), swallow a P3AT, etc. The back pockets are also deep enough to conceal most small pistols. The best part is that they are always running 2 for 1 sales. Regular price is $30, so 2 for 1 is just $15 each :hand10:
There are still plenty of jeans I have not tried out, and some I have tried and forgotten how they fit, and yes, I would prefer to wear USA made, but we all know how that goes.
As far as I am concerned, for my needs and like sized people, you just can't go wrong with the new line of Gander Mtn. jeans. Are they a jean you could wear with a sport coat? Hell no, but for everyday, knock around jeans, they get my vote and I have been playing the CCW game for over 20 years.
Please feel free to add any other brand you have tried or use and even comment on ones I have talked about. Keep in mind that this discussion is strictly about pocket carry in jeans, not Dockers, not dress pants, not cargo pants, not shorts, and not IWB.
Think I have too much time on my hands? :danceban: