If you pocket carry, do you use a pocket holster????
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August 1st, 2009 04:40 PM
If you pocket carry, do you use a pocket holster????
I was shocked to find out of the 4 people at the range that pocket carry (2 LCPs, 1 j-frame, and my PM9) I was the *ONLY* one who had his in a pocket holster. The others were just pocketed.
I though, OK, just at the range. But nope, they usually carry them like that.
Am I missing something, or isn't that a little risky? I realize all are DA triggers with some stronger pulls (6+ lbs ish) but still, shouldn't you protect the trigger from being pulled accidently?
Or am I nuts and most people don't use a holster? All the talk and threads of how the LCP disappears in your pocket may make more sense if they are not putting it into a pocket holster!!!
August 1st, 2009 04:53 PM
I owned a a Keltec P3AT for about a year, and I wouldn't carry it until I had bought a pocket holster.
I understand the heavy trigger pulls, but why would I take that chance? Another benefit is that the holster breaks up the outline of the firearm and makes it look more like a wallet.
Pocket Holsters are usually fairly affordable, and add an extra layer of safety.
To each his own I guess, but I would never pocket carry without an appropriate holster.
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August 1st, 2009 04:55 PM
Yup! I use a Mika holster when I pocket carry my J frame.
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August 1st, 2009 05:02 PM
Always carry my 638 in a pocket holster makes it MUCH easier to present.
August 1st, 2009 05:06 PM
I read some where that a guy was taking a leak in an alley when he had an accident with his pocket pistol.It went off and shot him through the upper leg. Just another reason to use a holster when pocket carrying.
August 1st, 2009 05:10 PM
A good pocket holster not only covers the trigger, which is important, but it also keeps the gun oriented upright in the pocket. I couldn't imagine carrying my LCP or Pug any other way.
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August 1st, 2009 05:12 PM
I would never carry a gun in a pants pocket without an appropriate holster. I might consider carrying a bobbed/shrouded hammer DAO J-frame in a coat pocket with no holster, but that would be a very specific set of conditions.
August 1st, 2009 05:31 PM
Devils Advocate Here.
Remember that historically (even though antique pocket holsters DID exist) they were originally made and used just to prevent the suit pocket from suffering undue wear and tear to the pocket material.
They were not used because "pocket pistols" and "pocket revolvers" were considered to be unsafe just because they were slipped into a pocket.
The coat or pants "pocket" is really no different than a generic cloth holster.
The pocket holsters the firearm.
How different is the pocket than a "Smart Carry" holster?
Not very different at all.
Of course a person would be quite stupid to place other objects (such as keys) into the same pocket that the firearm is in.
The pocket was always kept empty save for the firearm.
Colt pocket semi-automatic pistols were always just slipped into a suitable pocket as were the S&W J-Frame revolvers and small Derringer type handguns.
Only fairly recently have holsters that mandatory covered the trigger guard and pocket pistols that absolutely CANNOT be just slipped into a pocket become somehow unsafe.
Just FYI & I am not suggesting that anybody not use a pocket holster even though I personally see no use for owning one & yes, I know that they keep the handgun in the same position in the pocket but. I've never found it to be a personal problem just to reach into a pocket and grab the butt of the firearm and draw it while keeping my index finger out of the trigger guard and off of the trigger.
And certainly if you are concerned about pocket wear then by all means...purchase one.
August 1st, 2009 05:34 PM
I am guilty do to the fact of not owning a pocket holster that fits a Grendal P12
I know not what this "overkill" means.
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August 1st, 2009 05:41 PM
Not only does it help protect the gun from misc. pocket debris, it keeps it properly oriented and also serves to aid in concealment by changing the profile of the gun.
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August 1st, 2009 05:56 PM
Always!!! See the ongoing thread about the guy who shot himself in the thigh while trying to use the restroom. "Nuff said.
A chambered gun not in a holster is a negligent discharge that is going to happen.
August 1st, 2009 07:30 PM
Gee...I guess I'll have to wait possibly yet another 15 or 20 years but, sooner or later it's bound to happen I guess.
Also please consider taking every single negligent discharge story with a large grain of rock salt unless some other totally disinterested person is around that actually witnessed it first hand.
That would be because it is common human nature for people to blame anything and everything but themselves and what is usually missing from every ND story is the untold truth.
Hopyard ~ BTW: I read that news story and it is rather short on details. How exactly would you say that happened?
We really need to get filled in on exactly how a Double Action Revolver or a semi-automatic pistol discharges while simply unzipping a fly and urinating.
Also...I think that most folks that stop and urinate in public alleyways are usually at least partially intoxicated and walking home from a bar. He was not using a restroom.
Serious question....How would you duplicate that exact scenario if your desire was to scientifically repeat it?
Again let me repeat that my intention is not tell any responsible adult how to house their firearm.
If any person feels that they need a pocket holster to be safe then they absolutely should go and purchase one.
August 1st, 2009 07:39 PM
Part of my reasoning for always using a pocket holster is that I infrequently pocket carry. I'm used to having lighter and money clip in left pocket and keys and pocket knife in right pocket. Loose change gets dropped in whichever side is closest. When I pocket carry, I have to make a conscious effort to make sure nothing but the pistol is in that pocket. Using a pocket holster helps when I screw up. If I pocket carried every day, I'd shortly get used to reserving that pocket for the pistol only and a holster may no longer be absolutely necessary.
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August 1st, 2009 08:19 PM
It makes it much more comfortable for me. Of course that depends on the holster. HBE 2-Point works great for me.
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August 1st, 2009 08:29 PM
resonse to QK
Since I carry a single action auto I think the holster is an absolute requirement.
Originally Posted by QKShooter
As for double action, stuff happens and triggers get activated, though I do somewhat agree it is much less likely to happen with a DAO than with something else. Still, I wouldn't carry my DA/SA chambered in my pocket without a holster. I just wouldn't.
As for the story about the guy who shot himself, I'm thinking too much booze played a role, but a holster might have saved the day.
When he fumbled and bumbled around searching for Johny, he couldn't have grabbed his real gun if it had been holstered.
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