Wilderness Instructor - What stiffness?

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    Wilderness Instructor - What stiffness?

    So my trusty 1.5" Nautica brown belt (from the Nautica Outlet at Woodbury Commons IIRC), which has served me quite well for almost two years holding up a Glock 23 in an OWB Kydex, is folding under the pressure (quite literally) of holding up my 10mm Fusion Tact-5 in a Pure Kustom Black-Ops Pro.

    I've decided on a Wilderness Instructor but would like some input on whether I should go with the standard 3-stitch, the beefier 5-stitch, or the polymer-lined version? This would be a 1.5" belt by the way.

    This is for an all-steel single-stack 1911 with tac-rail and mag-well (I'd give you the weight if I had any idea how much it weighs).

    Input greatly appreciated.
    Billy
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    Glock 23 in a Barber Leatherworks IWB

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    I have a 5 stitch and a CSM. I prefer the CSM. I carry about half the weight you do (G19) and the CSM just distributes the load nicely. The 5 stitch is a good belt as well but I just like the extra stiffness.
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    Go with the 5 stitch, I had a 3 and wish I went with a 5. The only thing I carry is a p245 Sig
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    I would say the weight would near 50 ozs loaded... stiff and strong belt definitely, I have moved up to lightweight 1911 so I will wathc this thread close...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kpw View Post
    I have a 5 stitch and a CSM. I prefer the CSM. I carry about half the weight you do (G19) and the CSM just distributes the load nicely. The 5 stitch is a good belt as well but I just like the extra stiffness.
    +1, same here except with a G22.

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    My polymer Instructor belt holds up my Desert Eagle 50..............How is that for strength.

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    Forget the 3 stitch, it's not enough belt (I have one, it pales to the 5 stitch). 5 stitch minimum, I have two and love them. That said, there have been times I think I'd have liked the CSM (OWB, for IWB I think the 5 stitch is fine).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Kustom View Post
    My polymer Instructor belt holds up my Desert Eagle 50..............How is that for strength.
    Ding Ding Ding .. I think we have a winner
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    Hey Billy where are those pics of this sweet setup you were gonna post when you got your pistol back

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    I have the 5 stitch. Was fine with my j frame. Now I wan the CSM to hold up the new M&P
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    I have the instructors belt with the CSM and its my favorite belt. It is perfect in my book. For the most part I carry a 1911 commander bobtail, G27, G22, or my Beretta 92fs, the belt does great with all of them. I regularly use a Mitch Rosen Premier with the bobtail for OWB and a Sparks VM II for IWB. Either holster does great. I have a beltman belt with the stiffener and it is too thick. I wish I hadn't ordered it. The Wilderness is just right.

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    Please, what is CSM?
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    It's the plastic stiffener insert that they offer for an extra $10

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    I found the 5 stitch to be pretty good unless you're carrying a handgun OWB, spare mags, a light and a bunch of other goodies. For standard carry, I think you'd be fine with a 5 stitch. However, if you will ever run a heavy load on it, like AR mags, etc. the stiffener would be good to have.

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    5 Stitch is perfect!
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