Help a noob with holster positioning

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    My current EDC is a Glock 19 with a Supertuck. The good news is that the Supertuck is comfortable. The bad news is that I am always experimenting with different settings and can't find the perfect one.

    What generally are the "rules of thumb" about IWB carrying (cant and height)? For example what is more concealable and comfortable setting it to ride high or low? Forward cant or no cant?

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    Carry what is comfortable for you. What is good for one isn't necessarily good for another (taking into account weapon, build of shooter, holster, etc). I like to carry mine about 4 o'clock (behind my hip), canted forward, and low in the holster/belt.
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    Well, a lot depends on your physical characteristics for one,,,then there's the way you dress. If it seems you can't find the perfect spot for IWB carry, then maybe you'll need to try different holsters. I need a good cant when I carry IWB. When I carry OWB, it could be canted or straight drop depending entirely on WHAT I'm carrying. The larger/longer grips disappear on me with cant. The sub-compacts doesn't matter to me for obvious reasons....the shorter grip. Now....certain holsters go with me when I tuck my shirt in.....others go very nicely for an un-tucked shirt and I'm even better off (more modular) with something more bulky like a pull over sweater. I do kydex and leather holsters with the same good results. I mainly carry at 3 o'clock IWB and the OWB could be there and back to 4-4:30. I have also carried IWB exposed.
    If you can't find the sweet spot with your holster, then I would say you're either not dedicating enough time for any certain position, or your holster/carry combo is not actually comfortable where you want it to be. Everybody is different. For some it's easy, for some it's work. I know me, and I'll usually be able to choose what will work best for me by simply looking at a holster. I've had a few that didn't work out. There are so many variables for holster/carry/body/dress, I wouldn't even be able to guess at a number, and I took probability and statistics for a fun class in high school.
    My honest opinion? Try another holster. Good holsters are listed here in the buy/sell/trade forum regularly and discount prices. Heck....I just missed out on a Don Hume 721OT holster for $20 simply because I wasn't here at the right time (still pouting about it too). My daily carry is a G23 now...same as your G19. I'm 6'1" and 200lbs. I have minimalist very functional holsters like the Galco SkyOps, and I have larger holsters like the DeSantis Scorpion for IWB and a lot in between. If you want to cover just about anything you do, or anywhere you'll go, there will definitely be more holsters in your future. Just remember there are a lot more folks out there going through their trials and errors as well, so if you get something at a decent price that won't work, you should be able to turn around and sell it for someone else' test run. Good luck with it all.

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    I usually cant my holsters about 30 degrees forward,this allows me an easier draw from a sitting position,I'm a lefty so I carry about 8:30
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    Quote Originally Posted by joepa150 View Post
    My current EDC is a Glock 19 with a Supertuck. The good news is that the Supertuck is comfortable. The bad news is that I am always experimenting with different settings and can't find the perfect one.

    What generally are the "rules of thumb" about IWB carrying (cant and height)? For example what is more concealable and comfortable setting it to ride high or low? Forward cant or no cant?
    I am also having the same problem.Although I find the holster extremely comfortable,I just can't find a good position for it.
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    You have to experiment with it. I prefer less cant than most people and that is why the Supertuck and the MTAC are holsters I really like.

    It's a pretty easy process that I use. Put the holster in certain position, then try it at all the carry positions you might use, say 3-5:00. Check for comfort and printing. Then adjust the holster to a new position and start over. Just use what works best for you, is most comfortable and prints the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMyRight2 View Post
    I am also having the same problem.Although I find the holster extremely comfortable,I just can't find a good position for it.
    I'll tell the both of you about my experiences with the Comp-Tac Minotaur holster I tried working with for two years before I knew it wouldn't work for me. It's similar in design of the one you all are talking about. Now...understand that every holster manufacturer fills a niche. Understand also that I would never say anything detrimental about any holster maker, nor site sponsor as their quality and customer service is on par. I have no reason to. My reply is simply delving into the possible reasons and my opinions as to why you might be having issues or concerns. I'm answering here in my own opinion for the benefit of others in your positions rather than PMing you simply for informational purposes. My intent is to help both you and others that haven't asked questions nor expressed their concerns. First off (and you need not answer here in the forum if you don't want to), why did you purchase the holster you currently have? (just thinking to yourself)...was it a recommendation or what you had heard? Secondly......do you realize why your holster is comfortable despite your inability to nail down a specific position for carry? I feel that both the Comp-Tac and the Crossbreed are both very secure designs, and for most folks being comfortable tops the list. My Comp-Tac was extremely comfortable. I made all attempts at getting it to work for me, my Glocks and my SIG. That leather backing was soft, and it conforms well to your body. Thing was for me.......(and was posted by another forum member in the past)...."it felt like sticking a frisbee in your pants". Well, not far off base, but what I think is that for some folks, these types of holsters cover way too much area. So much so that you're not certain of where your pistol actually is. We're not talking weight distribution of your pistol here. This should be done by your belt alone. It's just that human beings rely and depend on their senses. Feeling something against our bodies, and how our mind interprets those feelings is very important. Very important especially because most of the time we like to 'feel' secure. We like to focus on smaller areas which in turn leave less possibilities for our mind to ponder as to where this feeling is coming from. Personally, I like my carry pistol to poke me in the ribs when I sit, to ride against my skin when I'm walking. I like to feel the shape, the top corner of the slide, and the end of the grip all at once against my side. I wear IWB holsters with no buffer between my skin and the part of the pistol that's outside the holster at the top for my own reasons. My carry pistol becomes one with me, and anything in between me and my pistol needs to be as unobtrusive as possible so my silly little brain can accept it and go on to more important activities. I guess I'll never be a fan of holsters with excess leather that keeps me from feeling that edge, or that metal next to my skin (I've tried a couple and my most recent trial is up for sale here on the forum). My mind knows what it is and where, and it's not overly taxed attempting to disseminate information from a larger area of nerve endings that sometimes lead to confusion or uncertainty. Focus is what it's all about IMO, and these types of holsters (for some) may tend to spread that focus more widely than need be causing a little bit of confusion. Me? I'm a simple man with a simple mind that likes to get out and exercise once in a while. I don't know how much more simple I can put that. I just hope this helps someone searching for what's going to let them feel secure in the way they carry, because I believe one should carry all of the time.

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    Obviously everyone is a bit different so what works for one doesn't always work for another BUT I am surprised there isn't any "rules of thumb".

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    Quote Originally Posted by joepa150 View Post
    Obviously everyone is a bit different so what works for one doesn't always work for another BUT I am surprised there isn't any "rules of thumb".
    LOL! "rules of thumb" demand limits. Without limits, there can be no "rules". Overlooking the limits already set in the physical world according to science and mathematics, humanity has no bounds. It's our own minds that limit us and create "rules".

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    Quote Originally Posted by joepa150 View Post
    ...The bad news is that I am always experimenting with different settings and can't find the perfect one...
    Well ‘Grasshopper’, welcome to the club. Finding the perfect holster is like’ finding the perfect sole mate. One without defects, one without multiple moods, one without telling you ‘my needs are not being met’. Still, this enigma eludes us like a spurious thought or fantasy dream. There is no perfect holster, just many that you’ll buy like’ a woman buys handbags or shoes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saber View Post
    Well ‘Grasshopper’, welcome to the club. Finding the perfect holster is like’ finding the perfect sole mate. One without defects, one without multiple moods, one without telling you ‘my needs are not being met’. Still, this enigma eludes us like a spurious thought or fantasy dream. There is no perfect holster, just many that you’ll buy like’ a woman buys handbags or shoes.
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    See? And I tried to tell all of that in a half page on the forum. Somebody always seems to have the simple answer after I've wrecked a keyboard!

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    I prefer 3:00-3:30, and find straight drop most comfortable for small guns and 15 degree for larger ones. I have a pretty pronounced "turn" of my hip, and tend to position either just in front or just in back of that spot. Because of this I prefer a more compact holster design than one of with wings or very spread out attachment points. For IWB this means the traditional design with straps on the holster body. I know the winged designs are all the rage these days, but they just don't work well for my body and preferred carry. I also limit the barrel to 4 inches. Longer and it starts digging in to my hip. Good luck finding what works for you, it took me several years and a few hundred dollars worth of holsters to figure out what worked for me.

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    I carry my para-ordnance in a galco summer comfort inside the waist band I like it right behind the hip canted forward i personally like it to be a little higher ride it is more comfortable when sitting and you don't have to have a long shirt on

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    What is important to you. I carry at 3:00 because I need to be able to reholster with one hand and if I carry furture back I find myself hunting for the holster and not paying attention to what I am doing. I prefer no cant but find sometimes I have to have cant to conceal the gun. I have a farm and use my gun a lot. For most folks reholstering isn't going to be a concern. Decide what is going to be inportant to you where you need your holster at to it work for you.
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    SOB is what I've found best for IWB
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