A little background since I don't post here often. Just to get this out of the way, I've skulked here for quite some time before joining because I'm a LEO that is pro-concealed carry for citizens that can legally do so. Sometimes I feel like a pretty rare breed around other officers. But, I like coming here to gather information for various reasons.
For the last 12 years, my assignment has been executive protection. Sights like this help me professionally in a number of ways. It helps me to be aware how I can carry better for my job, new holster designs, understand CCW attitudes and mindset of the public, etc.
So, like most of you, I'm always in search of a better holster, a better way, a better method. I've tried a lot of them as I've had to carry in other countries, jurisdictions and environments.
I've been trying a Raven Phantom for a few months now. There are some great things about this holster that I like a lot, but it has been a challenge for me to find way to use it that I was comfortable with. Luckily for the holster it is very versatile, so, I was persistent in trying to make it work.
I don't know if this method of attachment has been covered here before or not. If it has, I apologize for the duplication. But if not, maybe it will help someone else with the same issues I have.
The firearm I'm using this for is a G36, and my normal attire is a business suit.
I originally bought this holster to give IWB one more try after many attempts over the years. The Raven, I have to admit, was much more comfortable than any other IWB holster I had tried, save one; the Tucker Texas Heritage. But, the TTH is not as versatile as the Phantom. IWB is very tolerable with the Phantom, but, it still wasn't as good as what I wanted for everyday work when some of my days run 16 hrs. However, it is nice to know I can do IWB if I have to.
So, I tried other attachment methods with the Phantom. I tried the loops for belt carry. The gun rode comfortably, but I found, for me it did not pull the gun close enough to my body to reduce printing to a level I was comfortable with. The problem was mostly the butt of the grip.
I also tried putting the loops on the outside of the holster and wearing the holster between my belt and trousers. Still, this printed, not to mention that it felt identical to IWB.
Next I tried their paddle attachments. I got about the same amount of printing and the holster tended to slide along the belt. Additionally, it was not all that secure. The area of the attachments that keep the holster from sliding up past the belt are a tad too vague and need more of a positive hook to keep it on the belt. It was very comfortable though.
You may be wondering why I didn't try the pancake wing attachments Raven sells to try to pull the gun in closer to me. These may have worked to do that, but I find that I have a need to be able to remove my holster, with the gun in it, at times. Though the need to do this is very seldom, it is a necessity.
So, I took all the attachments I had and started trying different configurations. This is what I came up with and have been trying the last few weeks.
IWB Tuckable Overhooks installed backwards for OWB carry. This seems to be solving a few things for me.
1. The most comfortable configuration of this I've found.
2. It seems to pull the gun in very, very tight to my body. In doing so, it also seems to increase the retention of my gun in the holster, thus requiring a little more firm draw. In my opinion, it is now perfect for an adrenaline infused draw.
3. Though it is not easy, it does come off the belt without removing the belt. It does install on the belt easily.
4. It does not allow the holster to shift forward or back too easily. It maintains it's position on the belt extremely well.
I don't know how the stress will effect the overhooks. They may crack over time, or if someone were to try to flex it up from the bottom of the holster. Only time will tell, but it feels pretty sturdy.
Here are the photos. I hope that maybe this is of help to someone out there: