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This is a discussion on Voice commands. Do you practice them? within the Defensive Carry & Tactical Training forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Sh00tn Butt i was taught to yell "freeze please" which when said a little slurred, sounds like "freeze police" .. now that ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sh00tn Butt View Post
    i was taught to yell "freeze please" which when said a little slurred, sounds like "freeze police" .. now that can go one of two ways .. either the BG freeze's because he heard "police" instead of please and the situation is defused, or he doesn't care that it may be a LEO and the situation remains the same .. or worse .. i have never had a situation where that was called for, but sounds like it might diffuse a situation, without impersonating a LEO .. any LEO's out there care to comment? .. any down side to this verbal command? ..
    I'm not a LEO....but I would think people (witnesses) would believe they heard you say "stop police".....and now you are looking at possible charges of impersonating a LEO....You say "please"...2-4 witnesses say you said "police"--what will be believed?

    If you're going to say anything....it's going to be something you want the BG to do...."stop" "go away" "leave me alone"...and the like. By hedging what you are saying, you are putting doubt in those around you...."did he say police?"...."maybe he's acting like a cop"..."maybe he's out to shoot someone".....

    see what I mean??
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    In addition to what S229 said, "Freeze" being part of the vernacular common between cops and bgs, I suspect that any bonified bg will at least suspect that you are the law. That may be a good or bad thing depending on the situation. Some fear armed citizens more than they do the law.

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    Yes I certainly do! Whenever I go to the range I yell "STOP!" as I draw my weapon. This serves several purposes:

    1. Yelling stop everytime I draw my pistol makes that part of my draw. It becomes second nature to say stop. In a real fight, I don't have to worry about what I am going to say.

    2. The bad guy might actually stop. If I can protect myself without firing a round, that is ideal. Yelling a verbal command like stop might be enough to de-escalate that situation.

    3. Although I am not a cop, it is important for people around me to hear something good like "STOP!" as opposed to "DIE SCUMBAG". In stressful situations, you will most likely say something. It should be something clear, concise, and meaningful that lets others know you are not the attacker.

    I may give up a slight tactical advantage, but shooting someone without warning is not necessarily the right answer either. Part of carrying a weapon is assessing the situation and applying the correct response. Sometimes that may require stealth, but more often then not a commanding "STOP!" will help to either defuse the situation or alert everyone around you that their is a problem.

    I often get looks at the range when I yell "STOP!" before a draw, but it's an important skill that many people don't practice. Train like you fight!
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    Good for you Jenson. Keep it up.
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    In stressful situations, you will most likely say something. It should be something clear, concise, and meaningful that lets others know you are not the attacker.
    I like the way you think, Jensen. Great comment.

    Also, at times it may be necessary to address not the BG in question, but other people in the area. For example, say that you and Mr Belligerent are exchanging words in public. Might have drawn a few onlookers - you know, people get curious, they want to see what's going on.

    Now you've got a few people standing around and you don't know if any of them are pals of the BG. Clarify the situation: "All you people here, if you aren't part of this I need you to leave, now!"

    No personal opinion on talking to the BG directly, but in general the idea of "witness management" is too abstract for me. If you have time, "Stop or I'll shoot" is fair warning, but I suspect I'd be too excited and overwhelmed to predict what I would say. Your policy of training and including the command is a very good one.
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    I couldn't agree more with directing the crowd as well. Chances are that you will definately draw a crowd. I might also add "Call 911" if I am still in the fight.
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    Yes, I have a set of voice commands that I practice. There are several good reasons to have some simple, clear, voice commands that you practice. Not only can they help you legally, they can save you from being shot by somebody else. I've been in several simulations when I've been shot by other concealed carriers who misinterpreted a situation. In many situations people around you are not aware of what's going on until you have a gun in your hand (shooting or not). It is very easy for people to assume you are the bad guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sh00tn Butt View Post
    i was taught to yell "freeze please" which when said a little slurred, sounds like "freeze police" .. now that can go one of two ways .. either the BG freeze's because he heard "police" instead of please and the situation is defused, or he doesn't care that it may be a LEO and the situation remains the same .. or worse .. i have never had a situation where that was called for, but sounds like it might diffuse a situation, without impersonating a LEO .. any LEO's out there care to comment? .. any down side to this verbal command? ..
    I need to practice my voice commands. "BANG BANG Freeze"
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    how about the famous "Stick around..." What's that from?

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    I have made a lot of people think twice about their actions more than once using just my voice.
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