My Grip vs. Rob Leatham (TGO)
I understand the confusion, and I think I can bring even more clarity to the discussion.
First off, I never called it a “Thumbs Forward Grip" because I knew if would cause confusion. But as of late, that’s what everyone seems to be calling it.
Myself, I have always referred to is as a “Fully-Rolled-Over-Wrist-Lock” both in my book and on my DVD’s.
Now, as far as the actual locking of the wrist goes, where the thumb “points” really has nothing to do with the wrist lock itself (although it does serve other purposes). :image035:
Yes, Robbie was the first to point his thumbs forward, but he does not use a true, Fully Rolled Over Wrist Lock. He (like most all Mod Iso shooters) lock the tendons by clam shell squeezing with the off hand. I don’t squeeze, I cup and freeze (stiffen) the fingers and thumb of the off hand.
Further, the article you referenced by Duane Thomas on the “Combat Grip” is from the 2006 Handguns Magazine. And the ONLY guy in that article using a roll over wrist lock is my buddy Dave Sevigny. Did you know he was left eye dominant? :blink: He rolls his right elbow up to shift the gun over to his left eye, otherwise he'd be in the Reverse Weaver. :yup:
BOTTOM LINE: Just because the thumbs point forward, it does not mean you have achieved wrist lock. A “Rule of Thumb” you can use to judge this is that if they're shooting MOD ISO, then they're probably not using a fully rolled over wrist lock. :redface:
I say “probably” because unless you have crazy wrist bones and well stretched tendons it would be VERY, VERY uncomfortable to do so.
Thanks Harry and TSiIWRX for your input. :icon_cool: