What should an instructor AVOID doing? Horror stories, please!
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Students are there to learn how to shoot and use a firearm and possible defend themselves. I'm sure ...
February 25th, 2012 09:52 PM
Leave your political views at the door!!!!
Students are there to learn how to shoot and use a firearm and possible defend themselves. I'm sure many gun people vote and view politics the same, however, a scared student who may had just had a traumatic incident in their lives who may not agree with our political views may be in your course. The last thing they want to hear is a attack on personal beliefs. I'm a firm believer that people will be open to exploring alternatives if they don't hear things about a political party they may volunteer or even work for. Hook them with the positive training, build the defensive mindset in the end it will pay dividends.
Debates and arguments won't change some bodies mind expect ally if it's rooted in years of programming. However teaching new skills and abilities will get the wheels turning and possible change them in the other areas.
Last edited by Rob99VMI04; February 25th, 2012 at 11:52 PM.
You do not fight like you train nor will you rise to the occasion, but rather default to the highest level you have mastered....Officer B. Harnish.
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Its not about guns..........Its about Freedom!
February 25th, 2012 09:52 PM
February 25th, 2012 11:33 PM
I agree...the best way to develop YOUR method of instruction and YOUR syllabus/curriculum/approach, is to attend the "TRAINING" classes of REPUTABLE and SUCCESSFUL INSTRUCTORS. Observe their techniques, approaches, successess. Adapt to YOUR style and develop each and every time you instruct. Never cease having an open mind to other intructor techniques that are successful and try to attend new training annually. Take some of "their" instructor courses as well...It should/will be an ongoing process for you...JMO
Originally Posted by HKinNY
Sometimes in life you have to stand your ground. It's a hard lesson to learn and even most adults don't get it, but in the end only I can be responsible for my life. If faced with any type of adversity, only I can overcome it. Waiting for someone else to take responsibility is a long fruitless wait.
February 26th, 2012 11:25 AM
I teach non-certificate "community classes" to our church members on handgun safety and personal defense. These classes are intended to get them thinking about safety and to whet their appetite for more instruction. There is a top notch training facility in my area (also a 5 star indoor range) that goes way beyond what I cover so I refer my students to them if they want to go deeper. I merely cover the basics and a broad range of topics to stimulate discussion.
Conservative, Gun-Toting, Backwoods, College Educated, Hetrosexual, Male
February 26th, 2012 03:54 PM
Avoid absolutes, close-mindedness, and a know-it-all attitude.
Had one instructor shake his head sadly at me telling me I should have taken his class before wasting money on a 9mm, as it was useless for self defense, and that the best self defense option was a 7 round .38 revolver. He loved that one student had borrowed a 642 for the class, claiming it was a great choice and probably worth $1,200. Also claimed glaser safety slugs as the end-all be-all of defensive ammunition based on a test he did shooting watermelons 20+ years ago. So he had absolute certainty that he knew everything about guns, and that old opinions are set in stone...a real disservice to his students. Most probably would never know, but a few will probably go on to learn much more.
Also, never try to belittle or embarrass...it can backfire a bit. One instructor was trying to show the class how useless it was to shoot beyond a certain range by having the class take long range shots. One student hit, and to prove it was a fluke, he had everyone do it again to show it couldn't be repeated. Guess which student scored an even better hit the next round?
February 26th, 2012 04:13 PM
when a question is asked.....you pause and think--why did he/she ask that?
if you understand where the student went off the path, you know where to start repairing their knowledge.
when you answer a question--be observant of the student: did they understand the answer or are they just nodding their head? your 1st answer is likely repeating/rewording from the manual. back that up with a analogy.
as you gain experience you will develope your own style of "lets think about it from this POV".
perhaps co-teach 3 classes with a seasoned instructor.
if you are alone, keep the classes small; 4...maybe 5. 6 is hard to give personalized attention to each.
invite spouses and SO's to sit in free ( no cert of course). it shows you care cause if there is going to be a gun in the house, others should at the least be able to handle and safe it correctly. and they may return with a friend for the course.
pick a area of wall that is where the muzzle points and gently enforce muzzle control, no sweeping.
have no live ammo in the same room as you are instructing. or pad locked in a green box
have a pockeet gun on you--in 20 years i've never needed it but a couple of times it was comforting that i had it.
than i stopped open classes. by referral is my methodology.
whats been said about patience and not raising your voice
Be awear, be deliberate in your actions and be accurate.
Why do those elected to positions of power than work so hard
to deny those same opportunities to the same people who empowered them
February 27th, 2012 12:34 AM
Don't "sit in" on another instructor's class as an invited guest, and then on the break come up and tell me what you thought that I should have mentioned or what you think I didn't explain enough or what you do in your class.
February 27th, 2012 01:29 AM
Everyone else has made good points but this one needs to be re-emphasized. Keep the politics out of it just like this site does. In class or here on the forum people want to learn about guns and self defense, not what you or others think about this politician or this law etc.
Originally Posted by Rob99VMI04
Someone new to guns could be turned off by highly charged political rhetoric. And remember, not all of us gun guys are conservatives.
I don't carry a gun to look for or start a fight. I carry one to finish a fight I never wanted to be in.
Revolvers, “more elegant weapons for a more civilized age.”
February 27th, 2012 01:58 AM
GOOD POINT! I once worked in LA then was hired in nearby San Bernardino doing the same type of work. They *really* didn't want to hear how we did it LA! Then I moved to Appalachia... I kept my ears open and mouth shut, thankfully, realizing that they were not all that keen on hearing how we did it in California.
Originally Posted by NRAInstrctor
Thanks to everyone for the good advice so far: please, keep it coming. I guarantee you that this thread will be carefully reviewed many times as we prepare to teach.
February 27th, 2012 07:40 AM
Listen to a persons situation and experience level before recomending a firearm. And don't refer to your 1911 as an "experts gun"
February 29th, 2012 12:12 PM
Show the class, then work with the individuals in the class. Some positions are not comfortable so work with them to modify grip and stance that works for them AS LONG AS IT IS SAFE!!!
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