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    At what distances do you practice?

    I have read and believe that most life threatening scenarios will occur in very close quarters. Therefore I typically use distances of 2-5 yds for my target practice. What about you?

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    I go anywhere from almost contact all the way out to 50 yards. I haven't shot at 100 yet, but I could see doing that. I eat a lot at a local mall and the spot I usually sit is roughly 50-65 yards from the doors. If a shooter walks in I'd like the confidence to be able to engage.
    I also carry a full size 9mm so I have the ability to do so as well, but that's a whole other discussion.
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    Bad breath distance out to 50 yards. I do not want to limit myself in anyway.
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    The real question is are we practicing for the real world or are we having fun target shooting? If it is the real world it is short and sweet, it is 3, 5, 7, 10 yards, whatever you believe is the distance that you need to actually present your firearm and fire it given imminent danger. Not only is it the distance but it should also include practice with more point/shoot in mind so as to minimize your reaction time to an imminent threat. If we are target shooting, the skies the limit. If you are practicing and are practicing at 40, 50, 100 yards, IMO, have at it--you are making the ammo mfgrs happy and rich but sure are not doing anything to protect yourself. No one can tell me, in the context of this supposed civilian defense forum, that there is a creditable reason to be firing at someone who is 100 yards from you--ridiculous, extreme, and irresponsible target shooting-yes/defensive practice-ridiculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    The real question is are we practicing for the real world or are we having fun target shooting? If it is the real world it is short and sweet, it is 3, 5, 7, 10 yards, whatever you believe is the distance that you need to actually present your firearm and fire it given imminent danger. Not only is it the distance but it should also include practice with more point/shoot in mind so as to minimize your reaction time to an imminent threat. If we are target shooting, the skies the limit. If you are practicing and are practicing at 40, 50, 100 yards, IMO, have at it--you are making the ammo mfgrs happy and rich but sure are not doing anything to protect yourself. No one can tell me, in the context of this supposed civilian defense forum, that there is a creditable reason to be firing at someone who is 100 yards from you--ridiculous, extreme, and irresponsible target shooting-yes/defensive practice-ridiculous
    Kel, you are right about the odds of something happening at long distance. You asked if its real world. Yes it is. You never know when you will be the one that can end the BGs reign of terror, that might occur and a longer distance than 10 yards. Again, why limit yourself. You might need that skill one day, and it wont be in your tool box.

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    I routinely practice at 7, 15, 21 feet which is about the distances TX CHL tests are. Additionally I practice at 25 yards.
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    If you are practicing and are practicing at 40, 50, 100 yards, IMO, have at it--you are making the ammo mfgrs happy and rich but sure are not doing anything to protect yourself. No one can tell me, in the context of this supposed civilian defense forum, that there is a creditable reason to be firing at someone who is 100 yards from you--ridiculous, extreme, and irresponsible target shooting-yes/defensive practice-ridiculous
    WOW! I think this is about the most narrow minded thinking I have ever seen on here.

    For one, ANY practice is good. You can't tell me that being able to hit a target at 50yds will hinder you in any way at 15yds. I would rather see someone shoot a pistol accurately at 50yds than being one of those (all too frequent) people that shoots fifty rounds twice a year and calls it good.

    ridiculous, extreme, and irresponsible target shooting-yes
    Really? If you are hitting the target nothing is ridiculous or irresponsible about it. Extreme? Yes, 100 yards is extreme range to some people (apparently you) for a handgun, but it really isn't bad at all. If you are hitting what you aim at and doing it in a safe manner, why is it so wrong?

    that there is a creditable reason to be firing at someone who is 100 yards from you
    As I stated in my previous post, mall shooting. I'm sure there are a few more examples, but that is the first that pops into my head. If you are on the second floor of a mall and the active shooter is 30 yards away on the ground floor, once you add in the distance you are above you are starting to stretch out toward 35-40 yards, but if you have a clear background why not fire a few rounds to hit the shooter, or at the least keep them pinned down and stop them from KILLING PEOPLE. Oh wait, that would be ridiculous and irresponsible
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    I mean this as humor: Shrine of the Mall Ninja LonelyMachines after the 'Mall' discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    Kel, you are right about the odds of something happening at long distance. You asked if its real world. Yes it is. You never know when you will be the one that can end the BGs reign of terror, that might occur and a longer distance than 10 yards. Again, why limit yourself. You might need that skill one day, and it wont be in your tool box.
    Sorry to disagree. There has never been in my 70 years and there never will be a case where I will be aiming my firearm at something that is say more than 10 yards away (10 is IMO about it for distance) to end a threat--it just is not imminent and, quite frankly, at those kind of longer distances, I cannot even be sure what is REALLY going on. I think we are talking "what if" here and it is always out there. Personally, "what if" is a phrase for this thread and not for me in real life. As I said, 70 years and no what ifs or anything approaching one.

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    A current thread on the same topic here:
    distance you practice from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottM View Post
    A current thread on the same topic here:
    distance you practice from?
    Yep. Saw that after I posted this. My apologies all for the duplicate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    Sorry to disagree. There has never been in my 70 years and there never will be a case where I will be aiming my firearm at something that is say more than 10 yards away (10 is IMO about it for distance) to end a threat--it just is not imminent and, quite frankly, at those kind of longer distances, I cannot even be sure what is REALLY going on. I think we are talking "what if" here and it is always out there. Personally, "what if" is a phrase for this thread and not for me in real life. As I said, 70 years and no what ifs or anything approaching one.
    You sir have been lucky in your life. Some of us have not. I will continue the way I do things....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    Sorry to disagree. There has never been in my 70 years and there never will be a case where I will be aiming my firearm at something that is say more than 10 yards away (10 is IMO about it for distance) to end a threat--it just is not imminent and, quite frankly, at those kind of longer distances, I cannot even be sure what is REALLY going on. I think we are talking "what if" here and it is always out there. Personally, "what if" is a phrase for this thread and not for me in real life. As I said, 70 years and no what ifs or anything approaching one.
    I am closing in on you at 69 years old. Last year I took a Defensive weapons class on Fort Huachuca AZ for retired Military, active duty/reserves and LEO's. They had instructions that included shooting at a 70 yard silhouette based upon this.

    Fairchild Air Force Base - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    A significant event at Fairchild occurred on June 20, 1994 when Dean Mellberg, an ex-Air Force member entered the base hospital and shot and killed five people and wounded many others. Mellberg had been discharged after failing psychological evaluations by base psychologists Maj. Thomas Brigham and Captain Alan London. At the time of the shooting, Fairchild's hospital was an ungated facility. The gunman, armed with a Chinese-made MAK-90, an AK-47 clone[4] entered the office of Brigham and London and killed both men. Mellberg continued to move through the hospital, injuring and killing several people, including 8-year-old Christin McCarron. The gunman then walked out of the building into the parking lot, where after killing Anita Lindner, was confronted by Security Policeman, Senior Airman Andy Brown. From approximately 70 yards away, Brown ordered Mellberg to drop his weapon. After Mellberg refused, from a kneeling position Brown fired four shots from his 9mm pistol, two rounds hitting the perpetrator in the head and shoulder, killing him.[5] After an investigation it was concluded that Airman Brown was justified in his actions, saving countless lives, and was awarded the Airman's Medal by President Clinton.
    kelcarry;2187858, Personally, "what if" is a phrase for this thread and not for me in real life. As I said, 70 years and no what ifs or anything approaching one.
    I CCW based upon a "what if"

    1. What if my life is threatened?
    2. What if my wife life is threatened?
    3. What if?????

    I could go on and on and on about the concerns for the lives of my. Sons' Daughters, grandchildern. Especially since I live in what the Govt has labed a "drug corridor"

    Within the last years several "TONS" of drug have been seized within 3/4 of a mile of my house at several locations including an abandoned truck that was within 200 yards of my residence.

    Not too long ago this area has had two undocumented travelers found DRT lying on AK47's and it wasn't from natural causes.

    I hope that "What if" never happens. If I could be 100% sure there would be no What if's I would feel no need to CCW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryball View Post
    You sir have been lucky in your life. Some of us have not. I will continue the way I do things....
    Still do not understand how I, as a "lucky" average citizen, is going to be put in a situation where I have to discharge my firearm because of imminent danger at say 20 or 30 or more yards. Some of the replies are akin to my winning the lottery. Mention is made of a terrible tragedy at a military base and somehow that means it will happen to me----therefore I should be training for it like it is around the corner? Quite frankly the odds are that I will be hit by lightning before I have to shoot someone at 50 yards but I still go outside in the rain. I do not live my life that way with what ifs behind every bush . I agree that we each have to walk our own walk and I respect any of you who feel it is necessary to think that way. My life is different than yours and others and I guess I have been much more fortunate than many.

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    Close range to 1000 yards, depending on what I am shooting.
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