Your Line in the Sand

Your Line in the Sand

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    Your Line in the Sand

    I had been thinking on these lines as of late and then Roger Phillips (Sweatnbullets) wrote this blog on SI. One can set their line in the sand but can it be done for others?

    For me a great read

    WARRIOR TALK NEWS - Your Line in the Sand Part 1
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    I think it's difficult to truly draw a line in the sand for oneself. I think it'd be a very curvy, sometimes blurry line. What I'd allow to happen in a situation would vary greatly based on innumerable factors involved. Not to say there shouldn't be a line somewhere, just saying it's not easy to be precise. Better I think to approximate where the line is and play it by ear.
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    The line keeps moving with age, experience, and circumstances.
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    There is a hard line (real apparent to me) that BGs cross over when they attempt shoot at me, try to stab me or one of my loved ones. This includes serious beating, kidnapping, sexual assault.. not sure I can list all of the possibilities.

    There are times when that line can extend further out if I have a good grasp of the situation, but I am not batman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill MO View Post
    I had been thinking on these lines as of late and then Roger Phillips (Sweatnbullets) wrote this blog on SI. One can set their line in the sand but can it be done for others?

    For me a great read

    WARRIOR TALK NEWS - Your Line in the Sand Part 1
    Good article. You asked if it can be done for others? We cannot write there line in the sand, but we can guide them, and give them the knowledge so that they can make up there mind on where there line could/should be drawn. The fighting mindset is a personal choice. A choice only you can make.
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    Very good read! Very good point of view to 'read into' and digest.
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    The line keeps moving with age, experience, and circumstances.

    Couldn't agree more.
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    my line , as mike says, has changed with time

    but it was never a line---rather a wide and fuzzy area.
    as 'things happen' the details define the line.
    if it defines an area that impacts me....

    action will be approiate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    The line keeps moving with age, experience, and circumstances.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I think the main thing, is that I have resolved within myself, that I can't stop a situation from happening once the SHTF, but I do have some control over how it happens and when it happens. I realize, that most likely I will have some fear, but I have admitted that to myself and have prepared mentally to fight through it. I've resolved that failure is NOT an option when it comes to my life and the lives of my family. I will focus on the mechanics of getting the job done, and down deep, fear will be my motivator! In the end, I will accept my fate and will know that I did EVERYTHING in MY power to defend MY line in the sand!
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    Quote Originally Posted by First Sgt View Post
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I think the main thing, is that I have resolved within myself, that I can't stop a situation from happening once the SHTF, but I do have some control over how it happens and when it happens. I realize, that most likely I will have some fear, but I have admitted that to myself and have prepared mentally to fight through it. I've resolved that failure is NOT an option when it comes to my life and the lives of my family. I will focus on the mechanics of getting the job done, and down deep, fear will be my motivator! In the end, I will accept my fate and will know that I did EVERYTHING in MY power to defend MY line in the sand!
    The bold, Fear is a strong emotion. We hope and train for the best, knowing that our fear will help guide us....Good post sir...
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    Good read.
    Mike1956 & First Sgt summed it up rather succinctly.

    This paragraph below from the article exemplifies their reasoning.


    Having been on gun forums since 2001, it still amazes me when I see people forcing their feeling and beliefs of tactical situations on others, as if they are the only ones that are right and everyone else is wrong. This is either a stance that is contorted by ignorance or by arrogance. If the situation is the dictating factor (and it is) and the individual is the largest factor inside of that situation (and they are) then it is clear to me that no person has the right, or the ability to adequately judge another man's "line in the sand." Until you are standing in his shoes, knowing everything that he knows, you have no clue what perspective he is coming from, you have no idea why he has made the decisions that he has made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    The line keeps moving with age, experience, and circumstances.
    When I was the 17-27 years old Marine Grunt that line was drawn, when I went into LEO that line was redrawn, now at 69 years old that line had been redrawn several years ago.
    What has never changed is where the line was/is when it came to my family. I will do what it takes to defend them. I will hold that line to allow them to escape and live on. Everyone else must make their own choices

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