This is a discussion on My Gunfight within the Defensive Carry & Tactical Training forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Harryball Oak I am not picking at you at all. Im just going to make a point about LEOs and Civilians as ...
If they come upon me, in my area... I am better than them... I am smarter. And they are not prepared for resistance. And, depending entirely on the situation, they may think they're getting cow-towed submission... They underestimate.
If I lived in my old home town, Chicago, the entire mindset would be different... and I wouldn't be there if I couldn't be armed.
Yes, things are getting worse even out here in the corn... and I have increased my vigilance as a result... But even the criminals here are "laid back"... they talk first... they "axe" you for your money/wallet/phone... they don't club you from behind and run off with it... They think that all the folks here are sheep... and will give 'em what they want out of fear. They'd be wrong.
But I ain't so confident as to carry condition 3, ever...
And, if I lived in Chicago (no, I couldn't even have a handgun in Chicago, I know... So let's say it was a more lenient suburb), I'd have to carry condition 4... NO WAY JOSE!
It could be worse!
oakchas, this part of your post worries me,While what you say may all be true. Are you not falling into what the OP was and is all about. From the article in the first post, "The problem comes in when we make assumptions about My Gunfight. Assumptions are awesome when they're actually right, but they sure can hurt when you're wrong."If they come upon me, in my area... I am better than them... I am smarter. And they are not prepared for resistance. And, depending entirely on the situation, they may think they're getting cow-towed submission... They underestimate.
Your assumption before the fight ever start or appears is firmly in your mind. What if those assumptions turn out not to be true? You have placed yourself behind the 8 ball even more. While I have never been in a real life gunfight, in my FOF scenarios I try to go into them knowing there is going to be trouble but with an open mind. No pre-set thoughts as to how its going to happen or what will happen once it starts. My assumption to a fight is that once I feel threatened and the line I've set already in my mind has been reached I will destroy the BG. The hows and what fores just happen, this is where training comes into play.
This line comes from Roger Phillips but I think it covers the subject well---"SITUATIONS DICTATE STRATEGIES, STRATEGIES DICTATE TACTICS, AND TACTICS DICTATE TECHNIQUES." Train, then make it you and if needed it will be there to happen and appear.
It's gotta be who you are, not a hobby. reinman45
"Is this persons bad behavior worth me having to kill them over?" Guantes
Then the fallacy of C3 carry would become immediately apparent. Especially if there is a Force-on-Force training block.
But reality is there is no way to maximize mediocrity.
BTW, anyone who hasn't needs to try 'their gunfight' in an FOF setting and see how it really turns out. Or at the least, read this currently running thread:
Is there a good reason for FOF training?
Everything we practice should be occassionally tested in the FOF arena. Until we test it, it's just theory.
Some people are so resistant to FOF they become angry, I've never understood that. Why would they not want to know their strength's and weaknesses?
Don"t let stupid be your skill set....
And Shepards we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee,
Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, So that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command,
And we shall flow a river forth to Thee, And teeming with souls shall it ever be,
"The pistol, learn it well, carry it always ..." ~ Jeff Cooper
"Terrorists: They hated you yesterday, they hate you today, and they will hate you tomorrow.
End the cycle of hatred, don’t give them a tomorrow."
Hmm, Ok My Glock is condition 1.5 and add my BUG which is a DAO revolver so thats condition 2. 1.5 + 2.0 = Keep your fingers off of my Butterfinger.
My rifle and pistol are tools, I am the weapon.
And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home
Let me die in a pile of empty brass."
I call my chambered Glock condition zero. If I pull the trigger, bang happens.
As we used to teach in the spook business, carry a 25 if it makes you feel good, but do not ever load it. If you load it you may shoot it. If you shoot it you may hit somebody, and if you hit somebody - and he finds out about it - he may be very angry with you. -- Jeff Cooper