How Far Away Should I Take The Shot?

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    Sprinting or doing 50 jumping jacks before taking the sot is a good thing to do.

    Also practice taking deep breaths to calm down
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    Keep increasing the distance until you fail. There are three componants to this, size of the target, distance from the target,and speed. Stay at 30 feet and increase your speed until you fail, then you know what speed you can be accurate at 30 feet. Then back up to 45 feet, same procedure, you will know how fast you can be acurate at that distance. As you move back and repeat this process, the two of the three componants that will change are distance, and speed. You have to slow down as distance increases to get your hits. Getting your hits remains a constant. For instance, the picture tells me you are shooting too slow at 30 feet. It works both ways. Long story short, your looking for that point at which you fail. Move up to about 6-10 feet and see how fast you can get those hits. Then move to 30 feet and shoot at the same speed, you will find you need to slow down. You have to push yourself to the point of failure to find those limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exacto View Post
    Keep increasing the distance until you fail. There are three componants to this, size of the target, distance from the target,and speed. Stay at 30 feet and increase your speed until you fail, then you know what speed you can be accurate at 30 feet. Then back up to 45 feet, same procedure, you will know how fast you can be acurate at that distance. As you move back and repeat this process, the two of the three componants that will change are distance, and speed. You have to slow down as distance increases to get your hits. Getting your hits remains a constant. For instance, the picture tells me you are shooting too slow at 30 feet. It works both ways. Long story short, your looking for that point at which you fail. Move up to about 6-10 feet and see how fast you can get those hits. Then move to 30 feet and shoot at the same speed, you will find you need to slow down. You have to push yourself to the point of failure to find those limits.
    That is not a four-shot group, but rather four one-shot groups, so I'm not sure how you got a speed read. One round from chest ready to full extension to fire in 1.5 seconds or less, four times.
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    That's one nice looking bad guy, he's so calm how could you put extra pores in his face like that? I mean he just wanted to have a talk with her.

    Evil gun owners!!

    Good shooting there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    That is not a four-shot group, but rather four one-shot groups, so I'm not sure how you got a speed read. One round from chest ready to full extension to fire in 1.5 seconds or less, four times.
    Your group is too good. Push your one shot until you don't get the hit exactly where you want it. that's your fail point. That might be as fast as you can shoot at this distance and get them in there like that,and maybe you can shoot faster. I get the speed read because you didn't fail. I know, it's easier to teach that to explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exacto View Post
    Your group is too good. Push your one shot until you don't get the hit exactly where you want it. that's your fail point. That might be as fast as you can shoot at this distance and get them in there like that,and maybe you can shoot faster. I get the speed read because you didn't fail. I know, it's easier to teach that to explain.
    The purpose of this exercise is to know at what range I can take the shot with 100% accuracy. If my group isn't good, I have failed. If I fail, my daughter/sister dies. One shot, cold-bore (as close as I can repeatedly approximate), no follow-ups, no second chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    The purpose of this exercise is to know at what range I can take the shot with 100% accuracy. If my group isn't good, I have failed. If I fail, my daughter/sister dies.
    For myself, I'd also want to know where my 90% failure mark is, as well. When it comes right down to it, I want to be aware of how far I'm capable of pushing it under (at least simulated) stressed situations. With a 90% or better chance of helping reverse a greater chance of death or serious injury to one or both of us, with my own family members I'd like to think I would take that shot. Heavily depends on recent training, understanding with family.

    Nice accuracy, there, M. Agreed on the varying of distances/speeds/movement/stress until you know the "patterning" of defensive shooting in that scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    The purpose of this exercise is to know at what range I can take the shot with 100% accuracy. If my group isn't good, I have failed. If I fail, my daughter/sister dies. One shot, cold-bore (as close as I can repeatedly approximate), no follow-ups, no second chances.
    Ok Mike, how will you know at what range you can take the shot if you don't know at what range you can't. You want to fail in practice trying to establish that point, not in a real life scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exacto View Post
    Ok Mike, how will you know at what range you can take the shot if you don't know at what range you can't. You want to fail in practice trying to establish that point, not in a real life scenario.
    Right. My shots start falling outside the triangle at forty feet, which is where my improvement efforts on this particular exercise are now centered.
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    Nice shooting. Ideally they'd be 1.5" lower going thru cartilage, instead of bone.

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    Nice shooting. I like to practice shooting an apple off someone's head. It's much more scary for both of us. LOL.

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    Nice marksmanship, Mike! And I like the target. I went on their website and I like several offerings. I might just have to order a few to add to my training/practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
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    1.5 seconds from the holster concealed maybe, but I'd try faster if the gun is already out. Agree with the comments above, push, push, push and then push some more. Good target, good training, so few really do it. Thanks for the link too.

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