Is it safe to practice without my eyeglasses?
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February 16th, 2013 01:07 AM
Is it safe to practice without my eyeglasses?
A range safety question for anyone who might know- I like to practice left eye, right eye, left hand, right hand, because I never know which one of those might be injured if I get into trouble. Best to be able to do it with either hand/eye and combination.
But I also wear glasses, strong enough that I wouldn't even think of trying to drive without them. And I figure, if I'm ever in trouble at very close range odds are good my glasses will have already been knocked off.
So do you think it's safe to try a target at 7 yards with my glasses off, that I can barely see? Or maybe that's not a good idea at a busy indoor range.
February 16th, 2013 01:29 AM
First, if you do try without your prescription glasses make sure you still use safety glasses. Most ranges have shorter distances than 7 yards available. Start at 3 and if you feel confident in that go to 5 and stop when you feel you're not going to be safe.
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February 16th, 2013 01:32 AM
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February 16th, 2013 01:47 AM
Having been hit by a piece of jacket in the face from a miss-timed revolver I cannot stress enough the importance of safety glasses.
Originally Posted by NC Bullseye
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February 16th, 2013 01:28 PM
Like the others have said, use non-prescription safety glasses.
NEVER practice without eye-protection.
Again as the more experienced shooters here have cited, there's plenty of opportunities for debris to come at your eyes when you're at the range. Ejected spent cases, deflected fragments of both the bullet as well as even the backstop, powder/carbon from the gun, etc. - these are just a few of the most common ways you can be injured.
Becoming permanently blinded by debris when you're shooting to save your life or that of a loved-ones'? Yes, that's a risk that's very reasonable.
But losing the same during practice?
Why don't we just practice Force-on-Force with live ammo? Why don't we use real knives instead of trainers when we work our knife skills? Why don't we go all-out when we're sparring against our class partners? You get the idea.
February 16th, 2013 01:44 PM
Originally Posted by NC Bullseye
This right here... practicing without your glasses is very important as you mentioned. wear regular safety glasses and get a feel for it at close range
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February 17th, 2013 03:28 AM
I agree and disagree. Sure you have that rare chance of catching some brass in the eye (and I've seen it happen). You should also practice for realistic situations and that may very well include you not having your glasses on. Personally I don't use glasses (luckily I don't shoot at public ranges either). I hate them and they fog up on me almost instantly and yes I use the anti fog stuff as well and that just gives me about 15 minutes before the fogging begins.
Your idea about practicing with alternating eyes and both eyes is an excellent idea. Bigger emphasis on both eyes open while aiming so you keep your field of vision.
Have you ever thought of wearing contacts with your shooting glasses?
February 17th, 2013 04:07 AM
If you are not wearing your glasses...how do you positively identify your target? I hear what you are saying in regards to practice, but in reality, think how you PID your target and not hit a friendly...
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February 17th, 2013 08:13 AM
Bela, yes I think it's worth wearing eye protection for all training involving firing. As for your corrective glasses, certainly do so for the bulk of your shooting training. But be sure to not neglect to work through how you perform without your corrective glasses, as well. It's entirely likely you'll find that capability useful, should the time arise when you're forced to quickly bring your gun to bear in a deadly situation. I would suggest working within your limitations. If that means you can't distinguish between an assailant and a friendly at 7yds, then IMO it's worth knowing where those limitations are and learning how to deal with a situation effectively because of that.
Evaluate various distances with your glasses, various distances without. If you can't distinguish a target amongst friendlies, then seek alternatives (ie, cover until you can deal with the assailant, or simply bugging out). As with anyone, it would be well worth working through these situations in a force-on-force situation (ie, training blades, "blue" guns, Airsoft) where you can simulate the various conditions. Always good training, if done right.
Last edited by ccw9mm; February 17th, 2013 at 08:24 AM.
Reason: clarification -- with/without corrective glasses, but always with eye protection
February 17th, 2013 08:18 AM
Eye and ear protection always. At our club some have been hit by shards of shrapnel standing way back. so it is very important to at least wear safety glasses and ear muffs or plugs. Stay safe and carry on.
February 17th, 2013 09:11 PM
Always eye protection and Ear Protection along with wearing a Hat! This greatly reduces hot brass down the front of the shirt. I have no issue with this. The only issue with any shooting problem is when you do it in public, you will not have ear protection and maybe no eye protection with you. That will be an eye and ear opening experience for you!
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February 17th, 2013 09:31 PM
Always wear eye protection
As others have said, ALWAYS wear eye protection when shooting. With respect to your prescription lenses and your concern they might be knocked off in a self defense scenario, have you ever considered using contact lenses?
Originally Posted by BelaOkmyx
February 17th, 2013 09:38 PM
Now this is just my opinion, but if you begin to 'point shoot'...only using the front sight...glasses won't make that much of a difference unless you have a white cane.
Let me clarify...you won't need reading glasses...just plain safety glasses w/o corrections.
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February 17th, 2013 10:44 PM
As everybody else said, wear safety glasses.
But your idea is neat. I've heard of people practicing with blacked-out goggles to simulate having to fire in a dark room. I've done some drawing with an unloaded gun (except for a bore sight I use sometimes) to see where I end up and it's helped me refine my stance and presentation of my gun. I'm to the point now that if I set my feet before I close my eyes and draw I end up within a 3-5 inch square at 5 yards at least 90% of the time. Not that this will be helpful in a real encounter except in that it has helped me in consistency with the aforementioned points.
February 18th, 2013 08:40 AM
Depends where you are. I shoot with out mine . I may not have them on at night or if knocked to the ground.
Your call do what you think is right, long as you do not endanger anyone one else.
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