Violence is Golden....

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    Violence is Golden....

    I put the thread here because I believe it pertains to mindset.

    Violence, we hear about it everyday on the news. Its there, its real and we as armed individuals sometimes must play that game. I came across this article and found the authors take on it very insightful. I think there is a lot to think about as it pertains to Self defensive and our own ability to bring violence to the table to meet an attacker. IMO if have made the decision to carry a gun, you should also make the decision to bring violence down on your attacker. Thoughts??

    Violence is Golden - Jack Donovan
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    I found it interesting from the very beginning.

    A lot of people like to think they are “non-violent.” Generally, people claim to “abhor” the use of violence, and violence is viewed negatively by most folks. Many fail to differentiate between just and unjust violence. Some especially vain, self-righteous types like to think they have risen above the nasty, violent cultures of their ancestors. They say that “violence isn’t the answer.” They say that “violence doesn’t solve anything.”
    This in spite the fact that "experts" now say women, if attacked, are best served by resisting as loudly and as forcefully as possible. Kicking, biting, scratching, punching, screaming, ... all forms of violence, and most often recommended as a defence against being assaulted if one is not armed.
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    Doesn't get more violent than war. Guess that's why all Vets are on the watch list.
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    "Anyone who clings to the historically untrue — and thoroughly immoral — doctrine that "violence never solves anything" I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms." - Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein
    "Yet this government never of itself furthered any enterprise, but by the alacrity with which it got out of the way... The character inherent in the American people has done all that has been accomplished; and it would have done somewhat more, if the government had not sometimes got in its way."

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    This points out the same logical fallacy used by those who decry hunting as barbaric yet love their hamburgers, steaks, and chops.

    P.S. I've always found wisdom in the words of Heinlein.
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    I'm not aggressive, I'm defensive.
    I'm actually quite violent
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    Violence begets Violence!

    I find it farcical to assume we are a non-violent species. Here is a quote I like to use; "War is instinctive. But the instinct can be fought. We're human beings with the blood of a million savage years on our hands! But we can stop it. We can admit that we're killers...but we're not going to kill...today. That's all it takes! Knowing that we're not going to kill...today!" James T. Kirk in 'A Taste Of Armageddon'

    However, if you choose to inflict violence on me or my family I will with Predacious Violence put a stop to your violence!


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    I believe it was the late Colonel Cooper who said something to the effect that violence does indeed beget violence, and he made it his personal mission to beget far more violence in return upon those who committed violence upon him in the first place.
    "Violence begets violence" should be a warning to the criminal, not an admonishment to the law abiding.
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    i have no problems being violent, and I can promise, that if you bring violence into my world, you will wake the sleeping tiger.
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    Let your plans be as dark and as impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt....... Sun Tzu
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    Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunder bolt...... Sun Tzu.

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    Very good read. If somebody wanted to commit violence on me and I could stop them nonviolently fine. If I couldn't I am not out of options.

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    Ive said it before Ill say it again and ive taught my kids and wife the same. The only answer to violence is swift and overwhelming violence in return.
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    I hope to lead a nonviolent life. However I always remember what my dad told me: you are not to fight, but if it can not be avoided, you do EVERYTHING you can to win. I will teach my boys the same.
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    Many who believe that they are non-violent are in reality only nine missed meals away from reverting to chaos and violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    Many who believe that they are non-violent are in reality only nine missed meals away from reverting to chaos and violence.
    NINE missed meals?!? Dude, I'm worried of the outcome if I get stuck in a crowded elevator at lunchtime. More than 15 minutes and I'm resorting to cannibalism.
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