CCW Qualifying tomorrow: Rent or use personal firearm?
This is a discussion on CCW Qualifying tomorrow: Rent or use personal firearm? within the Defensive Carry & Tactical Training forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Tomorrow I head to Vegas to take my ccw class and qualifying test. I have a Beretta Nano, and I plan on taking it with ...
View Poll Results: Rent the Glock or shoot the Nano
- 40. You may not vote on this poll
Rent the Glock
Shoot the Nano
July 23rd, 2013 11:27 PM
CCW Qualifying tomorrow: Rent or use personal firearm?
Tomorrow I head to Vegas to take my ccw class and qualifying test. I have a Beretta Nano, and I plan on taking it with me. HOWEVER, The Gun Store's website says they use frangible rounds on the range for the qualifying test. Now I've only ever seen frangible rounds at 95 gr. in 9mm, and I'm assuming that's what they got too. I'm also fairly certain that my Nano would have trouble pushing such a low-powered round. Out of 550 rds, I've only had 2 FTE's, but they were both with lower-quality 115 gr. rds. I could be wrong; the range could use 115 gr. or even 124 gr. frangible rds.
So the range rents Glock 19's for $10. I've handled a few Glocks but I've never shot one. Still, I'm thinking I might rent the Glock 'cuz it will push pretty much anything, and it's a chance to shoot it. I'm fairly confident that I'll pass the qualifying exam with the Nano, and I would think that the Glock 19 might make it that much more easier to pass.
I'm stumped, don't really know what to do. What do y'all think? Should I shoot an unfamiliar firearm but one that functions nearly identically as my Nano? Or should I shoot the Nano, a gun I've shot and am comfortable with and feel I will qualify with?
July 23rd, 2013 11:27 PM
July 23rd, 2013 11:31 PM
If I had a strong suspicion that my carry gun would fail to operate on ammo that was to be forced upon me for quals, I'd go with the known quantity. That is, so long as I knew I could perform with the "known" example. A G19 should be fine, but if you're a crappy shooter with one then it might well impinge upon your ability to qualify.
Still, quals aren't that rough, generally. Strange, though, that they demand you use one of their oddball rounds, instead of what you know works with your sidearm. I've never had a CHL qualifying course demand that.
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
self defense (A.O.J.).
How does disarming
the number of victims?
Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos)
NRA, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.
July 23rd, 2013 11:37 PM
I would personally use my pistol. You are familiar and comfortable with it. If you get a FTE it will be good practice clearing it in a more stressful situation due to trying to qualify. I wouldn't want to take a course for CC without the gun I plan on carrying.
Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk 2
"A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again."
July 23rd, 2013 11:40 PM
It may be that it's because it's an indoor range, or at least that's what I'm assuming. The class itself is free, and ammo is only $25, rental $10, so even for $35 for the class, that's pretty darn cheap. I think I may rent the Glock 19. I've been looking at one, that or a G26, which I'll prolly get because it seems more versatile (but that's a different thread) and they don't have a G26. This will be a good excuse to shoot/rent one. And it's not that demanding a qualifying course: 36 shots (12 freestyle from 15yds, 12 freestyle from 7 yds, 12 from 3 yds: 6 right hand only, 6 left hand only).
July 24th, 2013 12:04 AM
I took my course at an indoor range, and shot there at least once a week. Shoot what you want, no restrictions on any handgun ammo, but they do limit rifles to rimfire only.
Originally Posted by tele_pathic
July 24th, 2013 12:14 AM
Interesting to know up in Northern Nevada in Washoe county they have you qualify on a revolver and a semiauto then you can carry any weapon you wish. Does Las VEgas offer the same thing?
July 24th, 2013 12:18 AM
I know in Vegas/Clark County you can qualify on revolver and you can qualify on semi-auto. I hadn't thought to qualify on the revolver. I haven't shot a wheel gun in decades.
July 24th, 2013 12:32 AM
If you know how to shoot, rent the Glock. Make sure you are good with its operations for slide return and dropping the mag.
July 24th, 2013 01:02 AM
I would rent the Glock. That way it's their gun and their crappy ammo. If there is a problem, it's their problem.
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
-- Steven Wright
1950 Colt .38 Police Positive Special
2013 SCCY 9mm CPX-2 Stainless Steel
US Army 1973-1977, 95B
July 24th, 2013 01:13 AM
I'd hope they'd let you run a few test rounds through your weapon before making you start the qualification, given the situation. But I imagine you'd be fine with the Glock. It's close enough in operation.
Now, my brother was another story. When we qualified for cc, everybody in the class had to bring their own weapons. Most folks in the class had compact autos or revolvers; I had a full-size auto; the only handgun he had at the time was a 6" Super Blackhawk, so that's what he shot. He used .44 Special instead of Magnum, of course, but still it was pretty funny seeing him with that monster alongside all the soccer moms with their lil' guns. Point is, in his case, single-action only was what he was used to; if he'd tried a Glock, he might have had problems.
"Yet this government never of itself furthered any enterprise, but by the alacrity with which it got out of the way... The character inherent in the American people has done all that has been accomplished; and it would have done somewhat more, if the government had not sometimes got in its way."
July 24th, 2013 03:15 AM
though one...short sight radius and tiny grip on a familiar pistol or longer sight radius and a fuller grip on an unfamiliar platform...
i`d go with the Glock, even though i don't like the ergo. full sized guns are better for range use IMO. good luck!
“Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.” Winston Churchill
July 24th, 2013 06:55 AM
That's pretty much my thinking. In Tennessee, all you have to do is get the rounds on the paper. It's not like you're doing a military qualification with it. I rented their gun and used their ammo. Didn't have any problems at all.
Originally Posted by lionround
"The superior man, when resting in safety, does not forget that danger may come." ~ Confucius
July 24th, 2013 06:59 AM
At my CHL I could have rented (NO CHARGE) a Glock, but i wanted to qualify with the firearm I was going to use.
July 24th, 2013 07:47 AM
Originally Posted by Gene83
If you have concerns about the Nano reliably digesting the frangible ammo then I would utilize the Glock. Not to mention you will save yourself a cleaning afterwards. So once you get back home and don't have to clean a pistol you can utilize that time to track down a GLOCK and buy it for a carry gun! (Just funnin')
U.S. Army Desert Storm Veteran
Certified Police Firearms Instructor
Former US Customs Blue Lighting Strike Force Commissioned Officer
Advanced Highway Drug Interdiction Specialist
Graduate Regional Counter Drug Training Academy
Graduate of Bullet Proof Mind Course - (Dave Grossman Course)
July 24th, 2013 12:25 PM
That's got to be expensive range ammo.
Retired USAF E-8. Remember: You're being watched!
Paranoia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid...
"For What It's Worth" Buffalo Springfield
Search tags for this page
cheapest ccw class for seniors in the beaumont texas
washoe county no longer requires qualification with revolver and semi-auto
Click on a term to search for related topics.