Even the instructors need to prepare and practice

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    Even the instructors need to prepare and practice

    This weekend myself and one of my SWAT team buddies will be teaching a Basic Carbine class in our area.

    Just to make sure we had everything prepared we decided to spend a few hours on the range.

    I was running my Rifle Dynamics AR and he was running a suppressed SBR with a RRA lower. My choice of optics is an EoTech and he is running my old Burris XTR.

    First was confirming our zeros from the 25 yard line.

    AR s.jpg me chris and eddie 2.jpg

    Next we moved to the 3, 5 and 7 yard line to confirm the mechanical offset of the optics at close range





    We ran double taps on two separate targets keeping our times under 2 seconds for the four rounds fired. After that we went through our admin and other reload drills and ran each others rifles to get the techniques down. I run a Gen 1 Redi Mag on my rifle which drops both mags at the same time when you press the mag release.

    I brought the SCAR-H to play with. The more I shoot this thing the better I like it. I have just found a SCAR-L in my local shop that I may have to bring home.

    My partner had never run a SCAR and was amazed at the lack of recoil of the rifle. He ran the same double tap drill we were running with the AR's with the SCAR and still maintained sub two second times. My wife had no trouble with the rifle at all.

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    My current optic on the SCAR is a Leupold CQ/T which is a 1-3 variable red dot.

    Everyone got a chance to shoot the SCAR from the bench after mounting the bipod. All groups fired by different shooters were 1/2 to 3/4 inch with generic imported ball ammo. With match ammo and an optic that is not a red dot I am expecting 1 inch groups.

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    My ten year old had the chance to shoot the suppressed AR which he enjoyed. It was a little heavy for him to hold up but he did well with a little help.

    Overall it was a good afternoon at the range. It is not letting me upload all the pictures so I will try to add them in another post.
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    Nice pics. It is always good to get more training in. It hasn't been long since we had a thread about an instructor who shot one of his students -FOR THE SECOND TIME!! Good grief. Yes, even instructors get wrong if they assume they have already learned everything there is to know.
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    Always good when the instructors can do what they ask of their students; a bit embarrassing when they can't . Have a fun and safe class.

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    Prepping for a class is the best IMO.. Lets us know how the class works out...

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    Practices is always good and better than wasting ammo/time on the range. I notice you don't use safety glasses/eye pro.
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    Great pics! Reminds me of the "good ole' days". Keep fighting the good fight, God bless, and stay safe.
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    Part of the fun of teaching is you get to play.
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    I used to be a survival instructor for the Navy. Towards the end of the course most of the students would be feeling pretty confident in themselves.

    The last water based event was a 1 mile swim in a flight suit. I would swim it with every class, this was actually a pretty good challenge because there was always one or two in the group who wanted to out perform the instructor.

    In 4 years I never lost but I had a few students really give me a run for my money. I definitely had a few that could out run me or out PT me (we would get on occasion Marine snipers and other cool guys) but I always won the swim.

    Being a sharp instructor means you will make sharp students.
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    Everyone got a chance to shoot the SCAR from the bench after mounting the bipod. All groups fired by different shooters were 1/2 to 3/4 inch with generic imported ball ammo. With match ammo and an optic that is not a red dot I am expecting 1 inch groups.
    I'm confused. If you are shooting 1/2 to 3/4 inch groups with ball and a red dot then why would you expect worse with better optics and match grade ammo?

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    Looks good.

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    They call it the practice of medicine because you're always practicing.

    I like to take that approach with everything - it's about constantly learning, evolving, and improving.
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    The groups with the SCAR were at 25 and 50 yards. With something besides a low magnification red dot at 100 yards I expect around one inch.
    "A first rate man with a third rate gun is far better than the other way around". The gun is a tool, you are the craftsman that makes it work. There are those who say "if I had to do it, I could" yet they never go out and train to do it. Don't let stupid be your mindset. Harryball 2013

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    I find that if I do not shoot for even ten days, my eye-hand coordination is the first thing to suffer. So practice I do.
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