Who Point shoots/who doesn't

Who Point shoots/who doesn't

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View Poll Results: Who Point Shoots Vs. Sighted Fire?

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  • You use point shooting

    9 5.33%
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    Who Point shoots/who doesn't

    Hey guys,

    I am NOT trying to start a debate on which is better. Though i am doubtless it will come to that.

    I am interested to find out how many guys actively train to point shoot vs. how many guys only use sighted fire vs. how many cross train for both.

    Maybe a BRIEF explanation why... i know, asking for trouble.

    Does half the shooters on here follow the fairbain/applegate methods? or 1/4? or 3/4? or what?

    to answer my own question, i train both, but i suspect in a close range life or death fight i would point shoot. acquiring sight picture with a handgun is not something i have ingrained to the point of reflex. as range opens up and i have the ability to get cover i may start aming for more precision. JMO.
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    I train doing point shooting Because it's all you may be able to do in a defensive situation. Since I do both sighted fire is for more distant shots that need more focus.
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    Definitely point an shoot
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    As was pointed out in an earlier thread, one compliments another. Close-in, point shooting. Further out, aimed shooting if you have the luxury of time and maybe cover. I have been following the Fairbairne/Applegate/Wegner methods for 50 years and have successfully employed them in real combat (sorry to say). Practice both point and aimed methods weekly, still. Recently ordered the DVD from Paladin Press, not received yet. Should be very interesting. Trained in Applegate methods in the 60's. Anybody want to pick up my monthly ammo bill?
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    I don't see how it isn't pointing the gun either way. Point with sights, point with some form of index, line 'em up, lock it down, whatever. You still point, you still shoot. Particulars of same, we can and will discuss. Sighted shooting? Well, dang, I hope you're keeping at least one eye open when you're doing that! Kind of defeats the purpose otherwise, don't you think?

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    I do both, and since I only have one eye I defiantly leave that one open.
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    I use the front sight at anything beyond 5 or so yards, and use both front and rear at anything beyond 10 or so yards
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    I voted as using both but do find I point the gun even at longer distance then use sights to verify that I am on. Rather than look at and have a sight picture then lock onto target. My bring the gun up and pointing is very close to being on even though I am not using sights to get there.

    Even with point shooting you should be using the gun as a reference even though you are not focused on it. Your peripheral vision is pick up the gun and using it to make hits.
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    This is the easiest OP question I've seen in days. Anyone (IMHO) who doesn't practice point-shooting & include that technique in their skill-set is a chucklehead. Anyone who imagines point-shooting to be the ONLY way to effectively to aim a handgun is ALSO a chucklehead, AND a prime candidate to become an...organ donor.

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    I train to point shoot out to a certain distance. When I hit the distance where my shots get unacceptable, I transition over to aimed shots. Personally, I can't imagine not practicing point shooting but I guess if you aren't practicing for SD where speed and accuracy are both important, then I guess it wouldn't have that much of a draw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TX expat View Post
    I train to point shoot out to a certain distance. When I hit the distance where my shots get unacceptable, I transition over to aimed shots. Personally, I can't imagine not practicing point shooting but I guess if you aren't practicing for SD where speed and accuracy are both important, then I guess it wouldn't have that much of a draw.
    So beyond three feet you're aiming, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    So beyond three feet you're aiming, right?
    It depends. Are we talking clown feet or baby feet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by molleur View Post
    As was pointed out in an earlier thread, one compliments another. Close-in, point shooting. Further out, aimed shooting if you have the luxury of time and maybe cover. I have been following the Fairbairne/Applegate/Wegner methods for 50 years and have successfully employed them in real combat (sorry to say). Practice both point and aimed methods weekly, still. Recently ordered the DVD from Paladin Press, not received yet. Should be very interesting. Trained in Applegate methods in the 60's. Anybody want to pick up my monthly ammo bill?
    I ordered mine yesterday I have been working on point shooting and intend to take a class down in Arizona to get some serious training. I just started working on it about 3 months ago. I printed off that article the other day so I can study it at my leisure (when I get back from a scuba trip to the Cayman Islands Friday)
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    Point shooter here. When it hits the fan, you're never going to see your sights
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