Good and bad advice

Good and bad advice

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    Good and bad advice

    I couldn't find this running elsewhere, so sorry if it is a duplicate.

    The ?Sonny and Cher? of Self-Defense Have a Surprising Stance on Guns (Plus: Their Tips for Escaping an Attacker) | TheBlaze.com

    I like the whole escape approach, but discouraging firearms just doesn't fit with the rest of their message. And, "a weapon can be taken away from you very easily" is nothing short of a negligent claim - train to use the weapon and no one is taking it away...


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    Mmmmm...

    "While many tout the benefits of having a concealed carry license or a gun in the home, Tracy and Charlie don’t necessarily believe it’s the best way to secure one’s protection.

    “There are ways that you can teach people to get away or how to confront people without a weapon,” Charlie said.

    Tracy added, “A weapon can be taken away from you very quickly.”




    They don't have a clue as to what the real world is about.IMHO

    Reminds me of that (Ohio, I believe...) congressman who was very 'anti'...until he actually got robbed; he completely changed his tune and got his permit and a firearm.
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    I have a Nephew who is into martial arts. He smugly told me that it was easy to disarm someone with a pistol.

    I drew my imaginary hand pistol, in two handed retention grip on the strong side, close to my body, and said "Go ahead." Ready to say "Bang, Bang", if he moved.

    He was expecting me to fully extend my arm, pistol out in front, etc. He then explained well yeah, but if you held it out, then its easy.

    I explained thats why there are retention grips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormRhydr View Post
    I have a Nephew who is into martial arts. He smugly told me that it was easy to disarm someone with a pistol.

    I drew my imaginary hand pistol, in two handed retention grip on the strong side, close to my body, and said "Go ahead." Ready to say "Bang, Bang", if he moved.

    He was expecting me to fully extend my arm, pistol out in front, etc. He then explained well yeah, but if you held it out, then its easy.

    I explained thats why there are retention grips.

    I have a nephew who is an extremely liberal college professor. He and his wife both have several degrees of black-belts in several martial arts. They also teach martial arts. We went through similar scenarios. Where I grew up, I was a minority and fought to survive in school. He always tells me he can take me, but doesn't have survival instincts. I can still put him on the ground.
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    I'm sure these two mean well... but they are dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LimaCharlie View Post
    I have a nephew who is an extremely liberal college professor. He and his wife both have several degrees of black-belts in several martial arts. They also teach martial arts. We went through similar scenarios. Where I grew up, I was a minority and fought to survive in school. He always tells me he can take me, but doesn't have survival instincts. I can still put him on the ground.
    I hear yah, my brother. A joke that was not a joke at all with me was someone saying "Watch out, I know Karate!". My response "Yeah, and I know table leg".

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    There are actually some people who should not have guns. But this should be determined on a one by one basis and those persons should fully understand and agree to the reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret Spuk View Post
    I'm sure these two mean well... but they are dangerous.
    Especially to themselves.
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    "The “Sonny and Cher” of self-defense." Really? I don't find that very confidence inspiring. They do seem to have a nice business going however.

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    If it’s a purse or personal items, they recommend immediately handing them over. But if the person wants to abduct the victim, that’s when the experts recommend saying “no” and running away in a zigzag pattern. While this may seem like a scary option, they believe it offers the best chance of survival.

    “Most bad guys aren’t good shots,” Charlie said.
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    5 stars for you Storm.

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    More like the Stiller and Meara of self-defense. Funny, not to be taken seriously.

    Now the "JD and Lima" of self-defense, THAT's something I'd pay attention to!
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    The reports I see of actual shootings and fights include a larger number of incidences where the good guy takes the bad guys gun away than vice versa. Perhaps someone should tell them they're supporting the criminal element with this philosophy more than the good guys.
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