One reason I think FOF is so important

One reason I think FOF is so important

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    One reason I think FOF is so important

    Sheepdog Tip of the Day, Before Combat tip 2

    One of the key distinguishing characteristics that differentiates these departments from others is their training. In particular, in-service training that provides stress inoculation with paint bullets or some other kind of force-on-force training with marking capsules.
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    F-on-F is a great training tool. The article didn't mention non-marking airsoft projectiles, which provide great conditioning for shot avoidance and 360 awareness, particularly if used without heavy cover garments.
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    Trained FOF with semmunition rds. Similar to paintball. Great way to train. Wouldn't mind doing more of it.
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    There's been several very good Force Science articles about scenario training/Force-on-Force, covering everything from the mindset/traits of the individual pre-incident to their performances during, and even the psychological fallout and other considerations after the actual critical incident.

    Anyone here use the UTM Man-Marker Rounds?
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    Reminds me of my old paintball days when I used to play every weekend. Man I need to get back out there when it warms up.
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    The beauty of FOF is it allows you to find whether any method, tactic , technique, idea, stance, concept you know or thought you knew works ---or doesn't.
    Eye opening and mind altering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.M. Edmands View Post
    The beauty of FOF is it allows you to find whether any method, tactic , technique, idea, stance, concept you know or thought you knew works ---or doesn't.
    Eye opening and mind altering.
    The speed and confusion of it all was what most impressed me at first.
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    FoF will separate the skills that work well and those that should be dropped from practice [ if training for sd purposes not bullseye shooting ]. Like taking a stance, shooting two handed and using one's sights.

    In Fof, if you aren't moving, you're getting shot, at least more often anyway. If you can't get the gun out in a timely manner, you'll find out why I profess a faster, not slower draw stroke be attained through diligent practice with dry or live fire training. In Fof, people find out those tiny little groups they can drill aren't to be incorporated into sd scenarios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.M. Edmands View Post
    The beauty of FOF is it allows you to find whether any method, tactic , technique, idea, stance, concept you know or thought you knew works ---or doesn't.
    Eye opening and mind altering.


    Can be a great destroyer of illusions and preconceptions. Hard to take such things "out for a stroll" without FoF, with anywhere near the degree of stressing those illusions.
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    The more realistic the better with FoF. No gaming, no scripts. A general scenario and let the chips fall...The first few times it is a real eye opener.
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    Harry's on the money here. It has to be well supervised and controlled or it turns into a game of squirt guns with pain.
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