[Video] Police Chief Shoots Himself After His Jacket Drawstring Causes Negligent Disc

[Video] Police Chief Shoots Himself After His Jacket Drawstring Causes Negligent Disc

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    [Video] Police Chief Shoots Himself After His Jacket Drawstring Causes Negligent Disc

    This was an improper re-holstering issue. When an outer garment is covering your holster, pull the item of clothing up HIGH with your support hand (remember to be muzzle conscious), then re-holster. Also, be aware of the condition of any loose/long jacket draw string.

    Another thing I see in Youtube videos is people slamming their handgun into the holster. Re-holster S-L-O-W-L-Y... a twig, casing, debris etc may have fallen into the holster.


    [Video] Police Chief Shoots Himself After His Jacket Drawstring Causes Negligent Discharge
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    Ooops.
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    Quick video I did on the subject matter:


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    Thats what I tell everyone,never be in a hurry to holster. At our recent IDPA match it took me just over 5 seconds for a Bill Drill because I had 4 layers of clothes on, a safe draw was more important than being fast.
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    Scary. Thanks for the video...a great lesson on holstering, patience/slowing down, and making sure it's done right.
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    This brings up a discussion of the minimalist "holsters" that are trigger guards for pockets/backpacks/purses where the trigger guard is attached via a string/cord to your bag or belt. You have plenty of extra string/cord floating around in your purse/bag/pocket to get entangled in the trigger. Especially if you are re-securing the weapon.

    I also wonder how many ADs happen w/ someone tries to reholster w/ their finger in the trigger guard.
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    Terrible, and a completely avoidable error. There's no prizes for the fastest-to-holster. Take your time, "walk and watch" it in, don't just jam your gun into the holster.
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    When re-holstering my EDC the other night as I finished a range session, I accidentally snagged the slide on my jeans and it was racked by the time the gun was fully seated. Luckily I noticed it as it happened. I carefully drew the gun and cleared it before starting over. However I NEVER leave my finger inside the trigger guard unless I'm aiming downrange. Needless to say I pay very close attention now. Won't happen to me again.
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    Not the first time a Jacket cinch has got caught in the trigger and caused an ND
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixTS View Post
    This was an improper re-holstering issue.
    I can see that, yes.


    But IMO, it was really a failure to bring in "comparison/buy/sell" arms into the store in an unloaded state.

    Had he actually wanted to be bringing out a certain gun for comparison, then by golly he should have brought that given firearm into the shop inside a case. This sort of situation is the main reason those signs at gun shops exist, hopefully to keep folks from bringing out their loaded weapons and failing to either think or act safely, or finally hitting "7's" as the wheel turns 'round.
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    I have pistols with grip safetys and two with a hammer. I always put my thumb on the back of the slide when re-holstering, the grip safety is not depressed and the hammer can not get cocked. No glock leg for me.
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    I have also seen this happen from people who buy(( cheap)) holsters and the holster collapses and part of the holster protrudes into the trigger guard producing the same results.
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    When you are re-holstering there is a certain feel to the act, learn that feel. If it's different this time find out why...something is wrong.

    It take this amount to pressure to push the gun into the holster that should not change much if everything is the same. It feels and slides in the same each time too. If that's not there's something different and most likely dangerous. Another reason for dry practice, empty gun re-holsters the same as a loaded one. Learn the feel!

    Since there is no need to rush, the re-holster it should be a thought through process not a plain reaction response.

    This is one of the many reasons I like my XD pistols keep the hand off the grip safety, no trigger being pulled.
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    Glock lovers need to be especially cognizant of this possibility. My mind switches to "carefully re-holster mode" because of this possibility.
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    This is the second time he shot himself I don't think we can blame the holster, Jacket, Belt, or gun. I vote operator needs to quit carrying a gun.
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