When should I "crowd" cover?

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    When should I "crowd" cover?



    We usually do our videos at the end of class and do not have the luxury of multiple takes...1 in this instance:)

    Thanks for watching!
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    By "crowd" cover I thought you meant using the "no shoots" as cover.
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    Apologies for the background noise (gun fire). Will purchase a shotgun mic ASAP to help alleviate the issue. Thanks CRW for your advice!
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    If your cover is the ground, then you better crowd it

    Good video with good explanation.
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    Soooooo hows the weather by everyone?

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    When your only cover is a telephone pole. Bet you'll assume a bladed stance too.
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    Thanks for watching and commenting!

    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    If your cover is the ground, then you better crowd it

    Good video with good explanation.

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    Does not compute??? Or I'm the outside man of an inside joke:)

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    Soooooo hows the weather by everyone?
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    Well if the instructor ever meets Tom Sellec he won't be humiliated for lack of "mustachin' back" as they say.

    Neat video!
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    More reason for me to get rid of the spare tire...

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    When your only cover is a telephone pole. Bet you'll assume a bladed stance too.

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    Overcompensating for lack of hair where it counts:) Thanks for watching!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rugeroo357 View Post
    Well if the instructor ever meets Tom Sellec he won't be humiliated for lack of "mustachin' back" as they say.

    Neat video!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoenixTS View Post
    Does not compute??? Or I'm the outside man of an inside joke:)

    Sorry man... I know you guys put a lot of good faith effort and planning into your training material. I've commented before about getting shot at. I just wanted to make some coment without being negative. It seems that of late some trainers have seized on a military tactic, and apply it to civilian personal defense. The right bullet, striking the right surface, at the right angle that round MAY deflect and parallel the cover surface and might hit you. I know this can happen. I've done it in training with shotguns. I wouldnt want to compromise my cover for an event that might happen.

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    Thank for clarifying:) Are you saying that being an arms length or 2 from cover is "compromising your cover"? Sorry, but I am not privy to your previous points on the topic.

    Your comments are always thought provoking and good!

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    Sorry man... I know you guys put a lot of good faith effort and planning into your training material. I've commented before about getting shot at. I just wanted to make some coment without being negative. It seems that of late some trainers have seized on a military tactic, and apply it to civilian personal defense. The right bullet, striking the right surface, at the right angle that round MAY deflect and parallel the cover surface and might hit you. I know this can happen. I've done it in training with shotguns. I wouldnt want to compromise my cover for an event that might happen.

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    If someone could bounce one off a wall and it hit you... he could probably just shoot you directly. If a person can shoot at you behind a wall.... It's not cover... It's just a wall. I'm not knocking the tactics your explaining. I am suggesting that it's for a military situation, and little or no value to a CCW.

    It is great tactics. It is true tactics. It works! In the right situation. I have to admit that standing back from cover when peering around corners (cutting the pie) as it exposes less of your body.

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    Point well taken in when one must get closer to his/her cover. Also, if an auto is used for cover, it provides cover only when the threat is at relatively same level as you are. If the threat is at higher ground, most autos will not provide cover unless you crowd cover. This is mostly taught to military but is relevant to those of us who may have to use an auto for cover.

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