Update on Authorized Firearms for Security Officers in Florida

Update on Authorized Firearms for Security Officers in Florida

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    Update on Authorized Firearms for Security Officers in Florida

    Gov. Scott signs amendments to Statute 493

    Most significantly, the Bill permits Class "G" Licensees the additional option of carrying either a .40 caliber handgun or a .45 ACP handgun during the performance of their duties.

    493.6115 Weapons and firearms.—

    (6) In addition to any other firearm approved by the department, a licensee who has been issued a Class "G" license may carry a .38 caliber revolver; or a .380 caliber or 9 millimeter semiautomatic pistol; or a .357 caliber revolver with .38 caliber ammunition only; or a .40 caliber handgun; or a .45 ACP handgun while performing duties authorized under this chapter.

    Additional the Amendments allow Class "D" licensees to work in plain clothes without waivers or limitation of assignment while providing bodyguard or executive protection services.

    493.6305 Uniforms, required wear; exceptions.—

    (4) Class "D" licensees who are also Class "G" licensees and who are performing bodyguard or executive protection services may carry their authorized firearm concealed while in nonuniform as needed in the conduct of such services.

    This legislation will officially become law on July 1st 2014.


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    Interesting that they cant carry a .357 loaded with .357 ammo.

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    I thought that was weird myself. I'm guessing its since the .38 is a less "powerful" cartridge and the State fears that the shooter wont he able to handle the recoil on a .357 round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CenterfireTAC View Post
    I thought that was weird myself. I'm guessing its since the .38 is a less "powerful" cartridge and the State fears that the shooter wont he able to handle the recoil on a .357 round.
    I think the concern is more on the delivery end than on the sending end.
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    I personally believe that the former limitation on handgun caliber had more to do with the Florida Sheriff's assn. They seem to have wanted security officers limited to calibers smaller than the police and deputies. I guess they forgot that dead from a .38 is exactly the same as dead a .45acp.

    Here come the caliber wars.

    The other good change is allowing "D" officers to work in plain clothes unrestricted. This will allow the agencies to adopt what may be better tactics than what they had access to. My only issue is that D officers who also have G licences can carry in plain clothes if they are on a protective detail. There are any number of details, and assignments that may be better served with plain clothed armed security people.

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    I think the whole .357 issue is due to the overpenitration possiblities.

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    At one time, only 38 Special with 158 gr LRN could be used. Later, for PI only, you could use any approved handgun. Then, changed again to 380, 38 Special or 9mm with ball ammo. Then changed again to allow any hollow point ammo also, just no Pre-Fragmented. I left the PI business after that. You had to qualify with a pistol in any caliber you carried and then could use any pistol in that caliber. As far as I know, no Magnum ammo was approved for use.

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    I love AZ. Carry a Barrett .50 on duty if you want and your agency allows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret Spuk View Post
    I personally believe that the former limitation on handgun caliber had more to do with the Florida Sheriff's assn. They seem to have wanted security officers limited to calibers smaller than the police and deputies. I guess they forgot that dead from a .38 is exactly the same as dead a .45acp.

    Here come the caliber wars.

    The other good change is allowing "D" officers to work in plain clothes unrestricted. This will allow the agencies to adopt what may be better tactics than what they had access to. My only issue is that D officers who also have G licences can carry in plain clothes if they are on a protective detail. There are any number of details, and assignments that may be better served with plain clothed armed security people.
    From what I have seen the Florida Sheriffs Association usually stands against any expansion of gun rights for private citizens and security so I would agree with you here!
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    When I SO'd in VA there were no restrictions. I recall that some states limit SOs to 38 revolver only (Texas?).

    Why?

    And for FL, do they have similar laws for LEOs?
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    I notice that 9mm and .380 are limited to semiautos, .38 spl to revolvers, and .40 S&W & .45 acp allowed in handguns.

    That seems to mean revolvers in .45acp and .40 S&W are allowed, but not in 9mm or .38 acp.

    I guess this wouldn't matter except to big bore revolver fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuteTheMall View Post
    I notice that 9mm and .380 are limited to semiautos, .38 spl to revolvers, and .40 S&W & .45 acp allowed in handguns.

    That seems to mean revolvers in .45acp and .40 S&W are allowed, but not in 9mm or .38 acp.

    I guess this wouldn't matter except to big bore revolver fans.
    I dont think they gave it that much thought....

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    Seems pretty stupid for the state to exercise that level of control. Sounds like a needless amount of bureaucracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    When I SO'd in VA there were no restrictions. I recall that some states limit SOs to 38 revolver only (Texas?).

    Why?

    And for FL, do they have similar laws for LEOs?

    I don't believe there are any restrictions on what a commissioned security guard can carry in Texas. There are no restrictions for police officers or CHL holders I am aware of either.
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