"Blind fire" drill

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    "Blind fire" drill

    I'm not sure if anyone else does, this, but if you're trying to overcome a flinch...


    It requires two people. You give your pistol to your friend, and he turns so his back is facing you. He then either loads a live round, or a snap cap into the mag, inserts the mag into the gun, and racks the slide. He then turns and hands you the (potentially) loaded weapon. You then take aim at your target and fire.

    The idea is that a flinch will be very evident with a snap cap. For me and my friends at least, it's very effective in eliminating it and helping to develop a smooth, consistent trigger squeeze.

    Anyone else use this technique?
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    Indeed yes - this is the ''ball and dummy'' training approach.

    In the NRA pistol course, we go thru a section on that. I as RSO will load a revo or mag to include one or two dummy rounds - and then watch the shooter.

    The beauty of it is - in most cases - it shows the shooter so well what they are doing wrong!!! Nothing like it to educate and improve a newbie. Great training excercize.
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    When I first started shooting pistols, my uncle introduced me to this approach...it tells a lot and like P95 said, it takes two. Fortunately for me, the wife is usually with me at the range.
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    Actually you can load a few mags some with live ammo others with snap caps first. Don't look, mix em up and load.
    with revos, load , spin the cylinder and shoot.
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    "Ball and Dummy Drill"

    I think this is a very important training tool. It teaches 2 very important things to a shooter. And I use this in Basic as well as Advanced Handgun courses.

    1. Trigger control. (even with a dummy round under the firing pin when we press the trigger the FRONT SIGHT should not move.)

    Ponit of aim is point of impact!

    2. IAD (Imediate Action Drill) In a combat situation when we pull the trigger and nothing happens what do we do?
    TAP- tap the bottom of the mag to make sure it is seated properly.
    RACK- rack the slide to the rear to expell the defective round.
    ASSES- asses the situation if it is needed fire another round or shoot to stop the threat!

    You need to get back in the fight ASAP!

    Just my .02 on the subject.

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    It's "assess."


    Seriously though, I'm glad I'm not crazy. :)
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    General,

    Thanks! I am a much better shooter than speller!




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    However........... I am not sure about the CRAZY part?



    But you can spell!!!!!

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    I'm glad I'm not crazy because I'm not the only one who does this specific exercise.


    I try not to be a spelling/grammar nazi, but sometimes I indulge in my vice..
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    I have used it, it works well and tells you a lot about what you might be doing or not doing.
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