This is a discussion on Body language and threat recognition within the Defensive Carry & Tactical Training forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I was reading ExSoldier's thread on Threat Behavior in the reference forum and remembered this article. http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/ayoob87.html...
I was reading ExSoldier's thread on Threat Behavior in the reference forum and remembered this article.
Last edited by Texian; August 4th, 2007 at 03:53 PM. Reason: changed "thread" to "article."
"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him." G.K. Chesterton
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms ... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes ... they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Thomas Jefferson
Good info...read and heed...
Stay armed...stay alert...stay safe!
Proverbs 27:12 says: “The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.”
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I've already read it.
People...go and read that because there is a lot of good stuff in there that sure could help you if you read it and remembered it.
Unless you are seasoned LEO 'cause if you are then you probably have already learned much of it through real life experience.
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Plenty of very good stuff there. thx.
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is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!."
http://www.rkba-2a.com/ - a portal for 2A links, articles and some videos.
IMHO anyone in a " city " situation who is obviously alert bears watching . Our day to day grind insures that most folks go thro life with tunnel vision .. the fella standing near the C store or mall entrance who is Watching .. is up to no good . I watch folks , so some times security and cops will follow me thro a mall , i try and pause to strike up a conversation ( if they will approach ) I do make eye contact with them and nod or smile .. normally that is about all it takes for them to loose interest in me . Watch the one who stands out tho because there is where problems will come from .
Make sure you get full value out of today , Do something worthwhile, because what you do today will cost you one day off the rest of your life .
We only begin to understand folks after we stop and think .
Criminals are looking for victims, not opponents.
Gavin de Becker's book, The Gift Of Fear, needs to be in the list, as well. Situational awareness (aka radar), people watching skills ... threat management can't begin until those identify a building threat. Good tips in the article.
Excellent read - pretty clear and concise - but excellent, vivid descriptions of various "stages"
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Thought I would add this! Hope this helps, I think it's good info.
Most officers who get shot are caught by surprise but does that have to be? If you know how to read the subtle cues that indicate a concealed carry, can you anticipate that you're dealing with an armed subject and gain a preventive edge of timing and positioning?
Sgt.-Technician Jeffrey Kleinsmith, an academy instructor for the U.S. Secret Service uniformed division, thinks so, and at the recent annual training conference of the International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Assn. (ILEETA) he shared techniques used by agents who protect the president to spot gun-toters before they strike.
"This training works great on the street," Kleinsmith says. As part of a multi-agency gun recovery unit that patrolled tough neighborhoods of Washington, DC, he used these observation methods to help detect more than 300 hidden firearms on suspects in the first six months of his assignment, resulting in a 15% decrease in violent crimes in the targeted areas.
Early discovery is critical, he stressed, because if you wait until you actually see a weapon you may be too far behind the reactionary curve to thwart an attack.
Here are common characteristics and indicators of armed individuals that Kleinsmith suggests you keep in mind:
1. As you observe a potential suspect, try first to determine his strong side. Wristwatches typically are worn on the weak arm and first steps are usually taken with the weak leg, but generally people will use their strong hand for most actions, such as lighting cigarettes, shoving someone, holding or moving objects, and rolling dice in a craps game.
Even in the absence of confirming cues, you can count on "85 to 90% of people in the world being right handed," Kleinsmith says.
2. The overwhelming majority of offenders who carry a gun tuck it into their right front waistband, between their navel and hip. "They must keep the gun accessible," Kleinsmith says. "Also they see guns put there in the movies, it's 'cool,' and they can easily show their buddies that they're armed." The second most common hiding place is the small of the back, Kleinsmith says, "but this is relatively rare because it tends to be very uncomfortable." In practically all cases, any hidden gun will be unholstered. This works to your advantage from an observation standpoint, but to the bad guy's "extreme disadvantage because the gun's uneven weight can cause it to move on its own" and require adjustment.
3. "As suspects move, watch for a 'security feel,'" Kleinsmith advises. "Because the gun is loose, they're constantly in fear it will slip, and they'll periodically touch it, consciously or unconsciously," to be sure it's still there and in place. You can often see this done on surveillance tapes when armed robbers are approaching a target, and "cops do it, too, for reassurance when they're in plainclothes," even though they usually have holsters. Across his experience, Kleinsmith says he has seen "only one bad guy on the street with a holster." An NYPD detective, Robert Gallagher, who was especially skilled at detecting hidden weapons with observational techniques, reportedly found only about 100 holsters with some 1,200 recovered guns. "If you find someone with an empty holster," Kleinsmith predicts, "there will be a gun within a 20-ft. radius."
4. Closely related to the security feel is what Kleinsmith calls "protective body movement." This is particularly noticeable when an armed subject is running or moving abruptly; he holds his arm against the concealed weapon, either stiffly or with a very restrained swing. "Even if the suspect is just walking, you may see that he takes a full stride with his opposite-side foot but the gun-side stride will be shorter, almost like a limp in some cases" because he's trying to clamp the gun in place and minimize its slipping or its risk of falling out. The arm may also come in against the gun "as a protective movement when people start getting close to the suspect." Like you do when approached, armed offenders may turn their gun side away when you come up to them. "Craps games offer good chances to spot people with guns," Kleinsmith noted. "They're squatting down, standing up, rolling dice, passing money. Movement helps you pinpoint hidden weapons."
5. Of course, look for telltale bulges. "A gun is not flexible and doesn't conform well to the shape of the human body, so it may reveal itself in the form of a protrusion," Kleinsmith reminds. The whole gun may not be outlined, but tight clothing may reveal bumps that relate to a hammer, a grip, or a muzzle.
6. As you study a subject's clothing, ask yourself: Does it fit the season? In cold weather, is a coat unzipped or unbuttoned? Is the subject wearing only one glove, leaving his shooting hand bare? Is he wearing a belt that's not through his pants loops and thereby capable of cinching tighter against a hidden gun? Is a coat weighted down lower on one side? When he walks or runs, does a coat or jacket bounce off his leg as if something heavy is in the pocket? Does a loose-hanging hood seem weighted down, causing the drawstring to pucker? If a subject seems to have a wallet in his pocket but is wearing a fanny pack, then what's in the fanny pack? Is footwear mismatched, with one shoe larger than the other to possibly conceal a small handgun? With bikers, the favored hiding place for guns is inside boots, Kleinsmith says. Some may also use special pockets sewn into their colors. "Watch females who are with bikers," he cautions. "Most of the time they carry for the males," capitalizing on the tendency of too many officers to dismiss females as a threat.
7. On a vehicle stop, closely observe the occupants as soon as you begin contemplating a pullover. "Watch their shoulders," Kleinsmith says. A shoulder moving up can indicate a gun being drawn from a waistband; a shoulder dipping down may mean drugs, booze, weapons, or other contraband being shoved under a seat or between seats. If you decide to use indications such as Kleinsmith enumerates as justification for a stop-and-frisk, "you must be able to articulate your observations," he warns. Ideally, you'll be able to identify a cluster of several cues. "Write down all the characteristics you observed, all the facts as to why the stop was conducted. Never go just on a hunch."
Also, use these give-aways to make you conscious of your own actions while wearing a concealed weapon off-duty. An armed criminal's body language "may be more magnified" regarding a hidden weapon, Kleinsmith says, but officers tend to share many of the same nervous habits and mode of dress. To a knowing individual watching you, you may unconsciously telegraph your armed status in situations where you don't want it known.
Kleinsmith concludes: "Trying to increase your awareness of possibly armed individuals can enhance your observation skills and your safety. If you know what you're looking for, you can't believe what armed suspects show you."