NTI XV After ACtion Review

NTI XV After ACtion Review

This is a discussion on NTI XV After ACtion Review within the Defensive Carry & Tactical Training forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; www.TeddyTactical.com Having just returned from the 15th National Tactical Invitational, I thought I’d share my impressions. After a nice relaxing ride southeast from Pittsburgh to ...

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    August 19, 1970 - June 2012
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    NTI XV After ACtion Review


    Having just returned from the 15th National Tactical Invitational, I thought I’d share my impressions.

    After a nice relaxing ride southeast from Pittsburgh to
    Harrisburg, we arrived at the Holiday Inn & Conference
    Center mid-afternoon with plenty of time to spare prior to
    the Registration and Range Briefing at 1830 hours Tuesday 31
    May. I linked up with James Yeager, with whom I was sharing
    a hotel room at the Comfort Inn [located across the street
    from the Holiday Inn], and secured my valuable possessions
    prior to adjourning to the Elephant & Castle, an English pub
    located on the grounds of the Holiday Inn, for supper.

    It was outstanding to see Yeager again and we reminisced and
    caught up throughout the week. He is in fine shape and very
    busy with Tactical Response, which is growing by leaps and

    At the briefing, I discovered that I was assigned to Squad
    #5 which consisted of me, James Yeager, John Hearne and a
    fellow from San Antonio named Matt. We were to shoot the
    event on Wednesday. Squad #5 was to become quite notorious
    over the course of the week.
    Additionally, I was somewhat surprised to discover that the
    vast majority of persons present were known to me. After
    meeting some of the other practitioners, I was further
    surprised to discover that I had corresponded with a
    significant portion of them either through online forums or
    via email. By the end of the week, I had made the
    acquaintance of everyone present, but by the end of Tuesday
    evening, I realized that I already knew 90%+ of those

    Shoot Day—Wednesday, 1 June 2005

    Following breakfast at a Bob Evans restaurant [a poor Yankee
    attempt at a Cracker Barrel], I made my way to the West
    Shore Sportsmen’s Association Range where the NTI is
    actually held. Squad #5 was scheduled to begin at Stage 10
    “Subway Madness” at 0800 hours.
    The ‘bedtime story’ for this stage consisted of a
    terrorist attack on an urban mall. Your instructions were to
    retrieve an infant and transport it to the safety of the
    subway entrance, which ended the stage.

    Upon entering the range, you are faced with a camera
    wielding non-shoot target to your left and three terrorists
    at distances of between 5 and 15 M. Two of these are the
    infamous NTI skipper targets which require rounds to high
    center mass, followed by rounds to the head to cause the
    clothed steel target to fall. Engaging while advancing and
    taking advantage of the vehicles as cover was the most
    viable solution. Once the three initial threats were
    neutralized, you needed to move to and recover the infant
    strapped into a stroller. The infant’s mother was present,
    dead with a pistol in her hand. Adjacent to the decendant
    and the stroller was a dead terrorist armed with a Chinese
    Type 56 [AK-pattern] rifle. If you were aware of the AK and
    its’ spare magazine, you could retrieve it prior to
    vacating the site. Within 4 M, another car was available to
    utilize as cover as you engaged additional threats. At
    approximately 50 M, two uninvolved innocents were present.
    Behind them, at a distance of 65 M, were two AK-armed
    terrorists and, up the hill, somewhere around 125M were two
    additional RPG-armed terrorists. The subway entrance was
    approximately 4 M beyond the car.

    Following Stage 10, we moved on to the A.T.S.A. Village,
    which is where the force-on-force component of the NTI
    occurs. Stages 1 through 4 occur in the Village.

    My first scenario began with instructions to enter a local
    pawn shop and purchase a handgun. Initially, do an oddly
    constructed building, I moved through the role players,
    through the pawn shop, out the back door and down the
    hallway before they had any idea that the scenario had
    commenced. On the second attempt, I decided to depart
    without the pistol when the owner and another customer began
    to exchange words concerning the sale of certain illicit
    substances. Again, I was directed back inside with the
    admonition that I really needed to purchase a pistol. This
    time, I purchased the required gat and when I was attempting
    to leave, a rather larger fellow in a leather jacket blocked
    my egress. I ‘talked’ with my hands, utilized a soft
    crosscheck to insure that I could move past, if he attempted
    to physically interfere with my progress and exited the
    shop. As an aside, while waiting for my chaperone
    [evaluator] to determine which stage to move to next, I
    opened the gun box, mimicked removing the gun and sticking
    it in my waistband so that I would not be stuck carrying a
    big blue Springfield gun case around the
    Village…Unfortunately that was not allowed either.

    Incident Number 2 occurred while I at the bank attempting to
    get some change. Two armed goons entered, demanding money
    and ordering me to turn around. I offered them my cash,
    content to let them go on their way and shoot them in the
    back. Unfortunately, they decided to abduct the cashier.
    Since I wouldn’t let that occur ‘in real life’, I was
    forced to act. Having maintained an awareness of their
    respective locations, I turned, drew and engaged each of the
    bad guys with two well placed, high chest shots.

    The Parking Garage Incident was next. Upon entering the
    garage to stow the package in my trunk, I became aware of an
    altercation between a gun wielding ne’er do well and a
    female. I took up a position of cover and gave verbal
    directions to the woman to ‘Get Down’. While I had a gun
    drawn, neither of the involved parties could see it. During
    the time while I was jockeying for position to get a clean
    shot on the bad guy, the sheriff arrived. The bad guy
    ditched his weapons and both he and the female insisted that
    I had drawn a gun [which, of course, I had, but they had no
    way of verifying].

    The final force-on-force stage revolved around a Tattoo
    shop, a large black man, a female tattoo artist and a garden
    gnome tattoo. No major problems there.

    Upon leaving the Village, we moved to Stage 5 “Don &
    Kenny’s Hard Luck Café”. You are meeting some friends
    at Don & Kenny’s. As you enter bad guys with guns try and
    do mean things to you. Try and not shoot your friends or
    uninvolved innocents. Immediately upon entering, I was
    accosted by a midget with a gun. After shooting him, I moved
    rapidly down the wall to the nearest corner. Unfortunately,
    while I was tracking down the wall [moving towards my
    right], a threat appeared in the window on the left wall.
    Since I was moving at the same time as the target, I failed
    to key on the motion and failed to engage it. While tracking
    down the wall to my right, I picked up an armed ‘runner’
    target that should have attempted to exit the structure.
    However, the target had not been actuated yet, so I put
    three rounds in it’s skull from 9 M and then transitioned
    to the AK armed assailant out the back side of the
    structure. After eliminating those threats, a new threat
    appeared in the window on the right wall. There were, also,
    two non-hostiles present in the room. I did not shoot them
    and did dump 6 or 8 rounds into the final threat in the
    window. This was the one structure-clearing stage where my
    speed overrode my awareness and I missed a threat in need of

    The “Dueling Banjoes Medical Clinic” followed. In this
    stage, you are equipped with a leg brace on your right leg
    and dressed in a hospital gown. You have no access to any of
    your own equipment. You are at the clinic for your annual
    checkup and your wife has brought your son for his
    appointment, as well. As you enter the doctor’s office,
    you discover that he is now dead and there is a single shot,
    break open .357 Maximum carbine sitting on his desk, along
    with a handful of .357 magnum ammunition. You must locate
    your wife and kid and get them out safely. I armed myself
    and began calling for my family members. If they were
    present, I entered the room to retrieve them and progressed
    through the building. An armed thug was present with my son,
    so I shot him three times with a single shot .357 long gun,
    prior to retrieving my wife and then engaging two additional
    threats at the rear of the building.

    Stage 7 was the ‘Skills Demonstration’ stage. This stage
    is designed to access the competency level of the
    practitioner with his core skills. The stage began at 3 M
    and consisted of at least 1 shot on three targets within 4
    seconds from concealment. It was repeated twice. Following
    this was 2 rounds, from cover, on each of 3 targets at 5 M.
    Next was the DTI Dance from 7M [1 threat, engage until you
    encounter a stoppage, fix it, run the gun dry, speed reload
    and fire two additional rounds]. The last stage began with
    the shooter in the doorway at 15 M. You moved to cover and
    engaged a clothed skipper target until it went down. Again,
    they gave me fits! Part of the assessment involved how
    ingrained movement off of the line of attack and 360-degree
    scanning was into the shooter’s repertoire.

    “Harmony House” was a shoot house wherein your children
    are home. They can be heard screaming for help and gunshots
    have been fired inside your home. Again, I moved rapidly and
    aggressively, more concerned with locating my kids and
    getting them out than with stealthily slicing the pie and
    clearing every inch of the structure. Again, bad guys died,
    no innocents were harmed and I was cautioned to slow down.

    The final live fire component was the “A.T.S.A. Old Folks
    Home”. You are there to sign the will of your Aunt Agnes
    and Uncle Homer. As long as they die of natural causes, you
    stand to inherent 10 million dollars. Unfortunately, the Oly
    Valley Mennonite Separatists have launched an attack on the
    old folk’s home and your beloved aunt and uncle are
    screwed. Again, I moved rapidly, killed bad guys, didn’t
    shoot any innocents and saved my aunt and uncle. Fun, fun,

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    August 19, 1970 - June 2012
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    Following dinner, I attended Dr. Mike Shertz’ presentation
    “A View Of Mindset” at 1900 hours in the Conference
    Center. This was a very interesting discussion addressing
    the issue of the average person’s lack of reference points
    for dealing with [their own] traumatic injury and the ways
    society teaches incredibly bad lessons when it comes to
    fighting through adversity. Shertz is an instructor with Insights Training Center; a former 18D & current ER doc in Portland, OR

    After Shertz' presentation, Tom Givens gave his analysis of the Miami Massacre. Tom does the , hands down, best analysis of this event
    that I have ever seen. Tom's school is, of course, www.RangeMaster.com

    Thursday, 2 June 2005

    At 1000 hours, I delivered my AK presentation to a small
    group. They were interested and involved. We broke for lunch
    around 1200 hours. Jim Garthwaite, the pistolsmith, offered
    a presentation on the ‘Seven Steps of Functioning of the
    M1911’ at 1400 hours. And, John Hearne offered his
    outstanding presentation on the Newhall Incident that
    evening at 1900 hours. For those who don't know John, he is a
    federal law enforcement officer currently stationed in
    Mississippi and an instructor for Tom Givens.

    The rest of the time was spent politicking and visiting.

    Friday, 3 June 2005

    Jack Feldman, a Professor of Organizational Psychology at
    Georgia Tech, presented an outstanding lecture on
    “Training for Unconscious Competence” at 1000 hours.
    After lunch, I offered an encore of my AK presentation.
    There were approximately 40 people present. After my talk, I
    sold almost every set of my renovated East German sights
    that I had.

    After supper, Skip Gochenour hosted a panel discussion. I was pleasantly surprised to be asked to participate as a member of the panel. Skip would pose a question to the panel and then, each of
    us, in turn, would pontificate in response. I’m pretty
    sure I rattled some cages with my very loud opinion that
    most people do not want to train realistically and that
    trainers who do not wish to train realistically were doing a
    disservice to the students, themselves and the community and
    that they should “take down their shills and call it

    Saturday, 4 June 2005

    Beginning at 0800, we ran partner’s force-on-force. Yeager
    and I worked together. Following that, we shared lunch at the
    local “Eat & Park” and then met for the group debrief/AAR at
    the Conference Center for 1400 hours.

    Following the debriefing, I caught a cab to the Harrisburg
    bus depot and began the trip back home. After innumerable
    sidetrips, headaches and false starts, I arrived in Baton
    Rouge at 0630 hours Monday, 6 June.

    All in all, the NTI was an outstanding event and I am very
    pleased to have attended. I will be back for NTI XVI.

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    Fascinating scenarios Paul - and thx for a great write-up. You drove by within a mere 13 miles of my humble abode!! Remember Bedford, before you got to Breezewood - assuming you travelled the pike!!

    If I were a younger man I'd be well fascinated to get involved in the stuff you did - but it's good to read about. Did you get any pics at all?
    Chris - P95
    NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member.

    "To own a gun and assume that you are armed
    is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!."

    http://www.rkba-2a.com/ - a portal for 2A links, articles and some videos.

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    Unfortunately, I did not get any pics. However, James Yeager and Tom Givens both got some great shots, so once they get them sorted out, I hope to have some postable pics. I believe Tom is writing an article about this years NTI for one of the gunrags.

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