One handed reload/slide operation

One handed reload/slide operation

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    One handed reload/slide operation

    I saw a personal defense television short on one handed reload of an automatic pistol. It was a scenario where the weak hand was unable to assist. I cannot find the video any more but wanted to know who else had seen this idea. I was especially interested to learn the trick of using the belt or pocket to catch the rear sight and rack the slide if not locked back.
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    It all depends on your rear sights. If you have the "ski jump" Novak style, you're out of luck. There is not enough angle to catch on your belt. There are several makers now building more of an angle into the sight. My favorite is modern old school, made by Ted Yost. All it takes is enough effort on your part to snag the rear sights on your belt, pocket, table edge, etc. to be able to push the slide forward with your shooting hand and rack it.
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    Yes, incapacitation drills. These are techniques to draw, (re)load, and clear all types of stoppages using just one hand. Learn to do them with either hand.

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    If you have Novak type sights, i.e. the front of the rear sight is sloped, the sight can't be used for racking the slide. I've always been puzzled why everyone flocked to the ramped rear sight. The claim is that it is more snag resistant. When was the last time you had the front of the rear sight snag on something????

    Anyway there are several other ways to rack the slide without using the sights. One is to kneel and place the top of the slide (front) on your heel. The heel holds the slide and you push the gun downward.

    Another is to hook the ejection port of the slide on an object, the corner of a wall works well as one example; you may be able to hook it on a stiff belt or holster edge.

    It is also possible to rack the slide with one hand although not everybody will have large enough or strong enough hands to do it. From a one-hand grip on the gun, you rotate your fingers up and over the top of the slide and grip the slide as far forward as you can. You use your fingers to pull the slide rearward. I've done it, it's not easy, but with practice it'll probably work with some guns - not all. The easiest gun I've ever done it on is a full size H&K USP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangle View Post
    If you have Novak type sights, i.e. the front of the rear sight is sloped, the sight can't be used for racking the slide. I've always been puzzled why everyone flocked to the ramped rear sight. The claim is that it is more snag resistant. When was the last time you had the front of the rear sight snag on something????
    What's even more puzzling is why the front is ramped. If snagging is the issue, you want the rear face of the sight ramped.

    If you look at most ramped rear sights, it appears the rationale is to bring the rear sight back a little bit, thus extending sight radius.

    For any of my carry guns, I always have vertical, pegged rear sights which are easy to rack against the belt at the 2:00 position. You can try to rack against the holster, but personally, I found that hard to do when moving -- it's never exactly where you think it is, whereas your gunbelt is 100% predictable in location. Still, if you have those ramped rear sights, and a kydex holster, that might not be a bad idea; the kydex edge might grab the sight enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgg9 View Post
    What's even more puzzling is why the front is ramped. If snagging is the issue, you want the rear face of the sight ramped.

    If you look at most ramped rear sights, it appears the rationale is to bring the rear sight back a little bit, thus extending sight radius.

    For any of my carry guns, I always have vertical, pegged rear sights which are easy to rack against the belt at the 2:00 position. You can try to rack against the holster, but personally, I found that hard to do when moving -- it's never exactly where you think it is, whereas your gunbelt is 100% predictable in location. Still, if you have those ramped rear sights, and a kydex holster, that might not be a bad idea; the kydex edge might grab the sight enough.
    LOL - it does make you wonder, doesn't it!

    Yep, me too on the vertical rears for the very reason you gave. I even went so far as filing a ramped sight to vertical on oneof my guns.
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    On my G23, while i haven't tried, i would think i could shake the empty mag out while pushing the release, flip the gun upside down, insert loaded mag, then catch the front corner of the slide, near the barrel, on the edge of a table top or window sill to rack it back.
    Guess i'll have to try it tonight when i get home...

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    We worked one handed reloads and malfunction clearing extensively (to the point of insanity ) in a couple of the classes I've gone through (doing a type-3, weak hand only, while lying on your back is such a joy). I've found that using my belt at about the 2:00 or 11:00 (when using the off hand) is the most consistent for me. As mentioned, the ejection port works as well if you have the stupid "no snag" sights.

    Using your boot works as well but using that method, you have to be stationary, the other methods allow you to keep moving.
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