The night the lights went out in South Florida.

The night the lights went out in South Florida.

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    The night the lights went out in South Florida.

    Just a some videos of a No Lights match we just had today (Yesterday?) down here. There is at least one reload. Have you practiced your reloads in complete darkness? And can you perform a reload when you have a light in your weak hand?








    It was challenging and fun. We had moving targets and no-targets, coming and going. People dropped lights, mags, screwed up reloads. Some shot like it was daylight. Just a great experience.
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    Looks kinda fun. Can you use a rail mounted light? That would free up your off hand for mag changes. I wish I had somewhere around here to try that, it would be great training. The best I can do is cut the lights off in the house and use airsoft guns. That is helpful though.
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    that looks like fun! i really need to do that one day since i'm predominantly a night owl. rather my 1st time not be the real thing

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    Now there is some practical experience...dim light/no light shooting is something everyone should try.
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    That's one of the lessons I took from Front Sight. Flashlight under arm pit, reload (by indexing mag) and checking chamber with index finger. I still practice it at night.

    ETA: I was looking at the video and you can see the flash from your gun (practice ammo). That's another reason to practice shooting at night. To test your SD ammo and see if the flash is giving your position away.

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    As per IDPA rules, no mounted lights and no Lasers.
    Shotdown, if you have a light shinning downrange, you bet the BG knows where you are, muzzle flash is the least of the problems. Cover, Cover and Cover!
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miggy View Post
    As per IDPA rules, no mounted lights and no Lasers.
    Shotdown, if you have a light shinning downrange, you bet the BG knows where you are, muzzle flash is the least of the problems. Cover, Cover and Cover!
    Right. That's why you put the light under you armpit. If you leave it on, make sure you block the light using your armpit. If it's off then use your armpit to hold the light. Now you have free hands to reload, clear malfunctions, check chamber or whatever else. Your armpit will block the light. Anyone that's been to Front Sight or has tried it can tell you the same thing. Try it.

    Btw, that looked like an interesting stage. I wish we would do those here.

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    You must be talking about big flashlights. With the small tactical lights you have several approaches. Some lights come with clips where you can attach a lanyard and have it around your wrist. There are what is called Combat Rings which also attach to the light and allow you to keep the gun secured in a finger while you perform a reload.
    As for body parts, I favor the mouth.
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    No I used a Surefire E2D. The bezel was facing up (towards my armpit) to cover the light. +1 on the combat rings though. Everybody has a different approach. Looked fun though.

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    It sure was. We just started the post match discussion in out club's forum on lessons learned.

    BTW, I found this great article on light techniques.

    HANDHELD FLASHLIGHT TECHNIQUES SureFire

    Of course, after the darn match.
    You have to make the shot when fire is smoking, people are screaming, dogs are barking, kids are crying and sirens are coming.
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    Haha. I'm always on the Surefire website and I've never seen that article. Thanks for the link. I use the Harries Technique since I shoot with the weaver stance. I feel comfortable that way and I feel I have more control of the firearm.

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