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    I think local law enforcement trainers should start training centers for civilians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    According to Front Sight's manager...he knows nuting (use your own Sgt Klink voice), and everything is just great.
    You are thinking of Sgt Schultz. Klink was the monocled colonel.

    The fact is that every fraudulent business should be exposed, prosecuted and the maximum sentences imposed on the guilty. Some have sympathy because they were in the firearm training business. That makes it even more compelling to administer justice. As gun owners we should respect and uphold the law not flout it for personal interest.

    There are plenty of legitimate and excellent trainers that are running their businesses in accordance with the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SelfDefense View Post
    You are thinking of Sgt Schultz. Klink was the monocled colonel.

    The fact is that every fraudulent business should be exposed, prosecuted and the maximum sentences imposed on the guilty. Some have sympathy because they were in the firearm training business. That makes it even more compelling to administer justice. As gun owners we should respect and uphold the law not flout it for personal interest.

    There are plenty of legitimate and excellent trainers that are running their businesses in accordance with the law.
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    However good is their training, if it done by people with no morality, I am not going to cry over their demise.
    I don't believe in people who think they are above the law; crooks !!!

    Especially in that line of business, I would think we need people going "by the book" and following the law; otherwise what credibility have they to tell me how I can stay within the laws.
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    Frontsite is always in some shady situations, but i think they are one of the better schools as far as training and that they actually offer deals and discounted classes. Other schools just stick to their OUTRAGEOUS 1500-2000$ classes that the average person cannot afford. Thats a downpayment on a car!
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    I have been to Front Sight training a couple times and was extremely impressed with their training. Unfortunately, enough so that my wife and I became lifetime members just last month. Not sure what this news means for us going forward.

    There is much more to the Front Sight organization than just the firearms training classes. That was set up to also sell property to establish a resort of sorts and I am hopeful that much of the shady dealings was in that area. I do agree that people responsible for illegal activity should be punished but I am hopeful that the training classes can continue so we can get our money's worth.
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    Good. Let someone with some moral backbone do what Piazza couldn't: shut up, manage your business lawfully, and let your quality instructors do their jobs.

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    Love him or hate him, Ignatius Piazza (Front Sight founder) has done a great service to our cause.
    Have you read this man's newsletters? The greatest fault with Front Sight is Piazza himself. Front Sight was a great idea, but it had the wrong man leading it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BAC View Post
    ....Have you read this man's newsletters? The greatest fault with Front Sight is Piazza himself.....
    He's the Billy Mays of weapons training.

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    Oh not just the advertising. That annoyed me, but wasn't what turned me off to Front Sight. It was the virtual slander of basically anyone who disagreed with him. If you haven't had the chance to read what he said about a fellow in South Florida who recently defend himself in a Burger King, do. It's not the first such article he's written like that.


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    My neighbor is a bone cracker too. He also offers discounts, it's called medical insurance. Unfortunately he doesn't hold firearms training classes because he's an anti but if he could make a buck on it.

    Piazza must have a clouded financial record for this to happen. What's next ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfshead View Post
    I think local law enforcement trainers should start training centers for civilians.
    Not for me!

    Cops are trained to run towards bad guys.

    I run away from them.

    The defensive use of private arms is radically different from the offensive use of public arms / public safety missions.

    I want to be trained by private professionals that understand the needs of the private citizens desire to protect him/herself and loved ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highvoltage View Post
    Not to start an argument here, but what does that have to do with anything?
    He is always listed as Dr Ignatious Piazza. I wanted to know what he was a Dr of. Now I know.


    I agree, I've wiki'ed him a few times, questionable business practices to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigdl86 View Post
    Frontsite is always in some shady situations, but i think they are one of the better schools as far as training and that they actually offer deals and discounted classes. Other schools just stick to their OUTRAGEOUS 1500-2000$ classes that the average person cannot afford. Thats a downpayment on a car!
    Dang, man, where are you looking??? Gomez, Suarez, SNarc, Rogers, and Yeager all run in the +/-$500 range.

    On a related note, Piazza was able to offer "discounted" classes because the facility was established with the funds from the original investors- those who sued. If your facility is paid for, and you're ducking creditors, you can run cheapy-cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllAmerican View Post
    He is always listed as Dr Ignatious Piazza. I wanted to know what he was a Dr of. Now I know....
    Ah, gotcha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob72 View Post
    .....On a related note, Piazza was able to offer "discounted" classes because the facility was established with the funds from the original investors- those who sued. If your facility is paid for, and you're ducking creditors, you can run cheapy-cheap.
    Can you say "Ponzi Scheme?"

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    I’m not an attorney but it sounds to me like he needs to file chapter 11.

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