Threat-Focused Shooting: "Quick Kill"
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Hi folks - I've been lurking for a couple months but this is my first post here at CombatCarry. Looking forward to getting to ...
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April 19th, 2006 06:18 PM
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Threat-Focused Shooting: "Quick Kill"
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Hi folks - I've been lurking for a couple months but this is my first post here at CombatCarry. Looking forward to getting to know all of you.
I have an opportunity to get a guy named Robin Brown down to the Houston area to teach a two-day course in his Quick Kill (QK) system.
I'm interested if anyone has any experience with Threat-Focused shooting or if anyone would like to learn more about it. Post your questions or comments - the debate has already started :)
Stay safe -
David W.
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April 19th, 2006 07:47 PM
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Well welcome to the forum, but Houston too far for me
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April 19th, 2006 07:58 PM
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Welcome aboard 
Sounds more than interesting but way beyond my AO - sounds like QKShooter might be interested tho - in principle
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April 19th, 2006 08:19 PM
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April 19th, 2006 08:41 PM
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April 19th, 2006 08:54 PM
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Thanks for the "welcome aboard"
Yeah - sorry about that being my first post.
It kinda was a sales pitch, now that you mention it - but my point was that I'm not making any money off of the deal - I'm just trying to generate enough interest so I can get Brownie down here.
Either way - thanks for the warm welcome and I hope to learn some good stuff here.
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April 19th, 2006 10:13 PM
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Welcome.
Too far for me, but interesting none the less.
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April 19th, 2006 10:47 PM
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God forbid you have to use this training, and then the lawyer trying to BBQ your bottom in court brings up the fact you went to a school called "Quick Kill"...
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April 19th, 2006 11:07 PM
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Yes, please, for all that is good and holy, avoid Mr. Brown and this "Quick Kill" program.
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April 19th, 2006 11:53 PM
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Why do you say that?
"Avoid this system" is usually a statement made by those who have no idea what threat-focused shooting is really about.
I would submit that if you find yourself in civil court trying to defend your actions then you have bigger problems than the name of the system you learned - would you not agree?
If all you have to say is "for all that is good and holy, avoid Mr. Brown and Quick Kill" - then you're not really contributing. Would you care to explain your views?
If you don't agree with the system, then you don't agree with the system. But if you're going to try to talk it down then you should come prepared.
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April 20th, 2006 06:53 AM
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How about "Mr. Brown, for the sake for your students who might one day end up in court, change the name of your program."
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April 20th, 2006 09:11 AM
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You guys gotta be kidding me.
You're wrapped up in the name because you're afraid of having to go to court? I think you've got your priorities mixed up. Although, I'm sure somewhere there's a study that shows that the course material improves dramatically once a course has a PC name.
I didn't realize that we had to tailor our training to appease the lawyers.
No sure if anyone notices the irony - but you all contribute to a forum called COMBAT carry.... what would the lawyers think of THAT????
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April 20th, 2006 09:16 AM
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Pickpocket,
Is this the point shooting method that involves shooting one-handed from the hip, using the middle finger to pull the trigger?
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April 20th, 2006 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by
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I would submit that if you find yourself in civil court trying to defend your actions then you have bigger problems than the name of the system you learned - would you not agree?
My point was simply this:
Reality check...
If, God forbid, you are involved in a shooting, and even if it is ruled justified (IE: Doesn't go to criminal court), you can count on, not "wonder if", but count on being the target of a civil suit.
When the attorney. "Saul Moneygrubowitz" is trying to portray you as some gun-toting whacko, having a record of attending a class called "Quick Kill" could sound pretty scary to lay-persons on the jury, yes?
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April 20th, 2006 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by
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You guys gotta be kidding me.
You're wrapped up in the name because you're afraid of having to go to court? I think you've got your priorities mixed up. Although, I'm sure somewhere there's a study that shows that the course material improves dramatically once a course has a PC name.
I didn't realize that we had to tailor our training to appease the lawyers.
No sure if anyone notices the irony - but you all contribute to a forum called COMBAT carry.... what would the lawyers think of THAT????
Situational awareness goes beyond the tactical, my friend.
Depending on the jurisdiction one lives in, this sort of thing is a valid concern.
Matt
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