This is a discussion on UGLY Negligent Discharge in Orlando (Merged) within the Defensive Carry & Tactical Training forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by mercop NRA Instructor Rule #1 NO LIVE AMMO IN THE CLASSROOM Another one of those "trained professional experts" with the backing (but ...
OK kids this is how you safely handle a firearm, first check to see if it's unloaded...BANG!!....MY THIGH!!!! (kids laughing historically)This was not the first time something's gone wrong during a gun demonstration in Orlando. In 2004, a special agent with the Drug Enforcement Administration shot himself in the thigh with a .40-caliber Glock pistol while talking to schoolchildren about gun safety."
Just another reason why "trained expert/professional" is just a slang term to me...
Vermont does not issue Permit/Licenses to Carry a Concealed firearm. Vermont allows anyone
who can legally own a firearm to carry it concealed without a permit of any kind.
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"We won't be having anything like that in our church in the future," Lawley said.
One bad apple spoils the whole bunch.
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Turn the election's in 2014 to a "2A Revolution". It will serve as a 1994 refresher not to "infringe" on our Second Amendment. We know who they are now.........SEND 'EM HOME. Our success in this will be proportional to how hard we work to make it happen.
Yep, he just lost his cert........as well he should.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined". - Patrick Henry
Before I leave my house to teach a class, I check all guns being used. When I arrive for class, I recheck the guns. When my assistant arrives, she checks the guns. When class starts, I ask all students if anyone has live ammo. I check any guns that the students bring in. Then I ask at least 2 students to check my guns to ensure no live ammo. When we return from breaks, I ask again if anyone has any live ammo. When I am not using my gun at the moment, its sits next to me with the action open. When I pick it up to demo something, I look, feel and look again for live ammo.
Its simply a matter of repeating safe acts over and over so that mistakes like this do not happen.
This instructor was probably so used to operating in a 'sterile' environment that he assumed the gun was empty, failed to check, then handled it carelessly.
Didnt break any bones??? Shot in the foot?
How did he NOT hit a bone in the foot. I'm not sure if I should call this a good shot or bad!
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Question everything, Learn something, Answer nothing.
Those who have an answer for everything, have an answer for nothing.
When I took a course with the NRA instructor... anytime he showed what NOT to do the blue gun came out. Anytime he picked up a real gun he racked the slide, looked inside and checked the chamber before dropping the slide.
My CCW course had airsoft guns CLEARLY marked with orange paint whenever they showed things to do and not to do. There was CO2 to operate the slide but no BB's and never pointed it at students. They even racked the slide on the airsoft gun several times in the course just from habit
There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
when it comes to guns we dont make assumptions...
"Blue" guns do have their place, as Razor mentions.
With a training gun, there is no additional risk of failure to confirm clear, failure to maintain muzzle or trigger control. In a sense, that also promotes laxity in those areas, but it does remove the threat of ultimate failure (ND) if that case arises.
The reality is that guns are dangerous implements that need to be treated with respect. Attempts to make them 'safe' end up diminishing that vital respect, which far to often leads to tragedies like this.