Too much to put into title, but looking for guidance

Too much to put into title, but looking for guidance

This is a discussion on Too much to put into title, but looking for guidance within the Defensive Knives & Other Weapons forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Ok here goes. Issue one. I am newly appointed into a LEO job that I was a deputy of for 3 years. It has been ...

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    Too much to put into title, but looking for guidance

    Ok here goes. Issue one. I am newly appointed into a LEO job that I was a deputy of for 3 years. It has been about 4-5 months since I have been out pounding warrants. In this time I have learned a lot about a lot. One thing I have learned about is the importance of good knives and their positioning on the officer. I carry 2 folders and a multi tool everyday. I want a good fixed blade that I can carry for defense.

    The next part of my dilema. I work a security job too, unarmed, on construction sites. I man the gate and am solo most of the time. I am not allowed to have a firearm here AT ALL. Also, here comes the kick in the arse. I am not allowed to have a knife with a blade longer than 3 inches.


    I know the importance of muscle memory. So I need to find a fixed blade that I can carry at both jobs as a defensive tool that is up to 3 inches and has good real estate for my big paws.

    I have considered the TDI but I need more suggestions on knives and where to stash them discreetly.


    Thanks.
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    You might look at the Hideaway knife... strictly a defensive tool. You won't be opening the utility bills with this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllAbtSlfDef View Post
    The next part of my dilema. I work a security job too, unarmed, on construction sites. I man the gate and am solo most of the time. I am not allowed to have a firearm here AT ALL. Also, here comes the kick in the arse. I am not allowed to have a knife with a blade longer than 3 inches.
    This is NOT meant to be a criticism of you, but that's really useless, isn't it? I mean, what good is an unarmed security guard?
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    KA BAR TDI...here's mine... KA-BAR Knives: KABAR TDI Knife, Part Serrated Coyote Brown, KA-1477CB

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    This Schrade is pretty decent, simple, & inexpensive.
    The blade is 3.1" - Pretty much anybody with a standard ruler is going to call it a 3" blade.
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    BTW: The "sheath" also looks "useful."

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    I like the HAK option.
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    I have a Hideaway Knife (HAK), and would recommend it. Sub-3" and with a ton of different carry/concealment options, you are sure to find a way to carry it no matter which job you are at...
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    ESEE Izula or a Kabar TDI

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    I really like push-daggers for the role of a back-up/off-hand blade.

    This page has several different ones to look at.
    I know of guys who carry the Benchmade CBK attached to their inner-belt so the handle sticks up just above their duty belt...pretty unobtrusive. I also know of guys who do the same thing with the Cold Steel knives (the Safekeeper III is my personal fav. at this point).

    The TDI's are fine too. A custom sheath can open up your carry options.
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    Just curious, if you are a sworn LEO can't you tell your security boss to pack sand, you ARE concealed carrying on the security job because the law allows and your boss/Sheriff require it? Or is this a Fed. security job? That's the only way I can imagine being completely shut out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenpoTex View Post
    I really like push-daggers for the role of a back-up/off-hand blade.
    Unfortunately, double edged blades are a no-no here in PA.

    IMO, it's a little pricey for Taiwanese made AUS8, and they claim the blade length is a hair over 3" (.2"), but the BLACKHAWK! Crucible FX1 - BLACKHAWK! has a good sized handle which is comfortable in all grips. I have the older, Seki made, VG10 model. It's nice. You could probably get one for considerably less if you don't buy it direct from BLACKHAWK! The stock sheath is kinda crappy, but functional, and comes with several carry options.

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    Here's an option from Gerber, I like it and if PA doesn't allow double sided blades, just grind down one side. the BG is not gonna know the difference. GerberGear > Product Details > Guardian Back Up

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    If your on a construction site pick up a 2x4 or a piece on conduit better then any Knife will ever be.

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    MAJORLK - totally agree

    BUCKLES- been thinking about the izula too

    FLOR1- Its a gas well I am away from the site. I agree with that, I would much rather use a "stick" than a blade

    PARAMEDIC70002- The site is posted with a no weapons sign, I can not pack here, i will have to do some checking, the LEOSA of 04 says that i can carry anywhere except where posted that it is not meant to override any postings of that nature, i'll do some checking

    If anyone can verify if I can carry here or not let me know on PM, I am in PA.
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    Do what I did went to Home Depot bought 3FT. 1"1/4" dowel rod picked up 2 Rubber caps in the hardware dept. Carry it everywhere nobody even looks twice. Carry it in car not a concealed weapon pulled over officer never even asked about it. If I have outside of car just hold it like a cane.

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