This is a discussion on Anyone carry a Spyderco Civilian? within the Defensive Knives & Other Weapons forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Buckles for those people that have blade length restrictions, there is always the Matriarch. Its smalller, and a littler harder to come ...
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I would not consider a blade like this for self defense because you can't stab somebody with it. Now, while you may personally feel that "slashing" (or should I saw "clawing?" is a superior tactic, it seems pretty silly to select a knife that can ONLY slash when you could just as easily get one that can slash AND stab.
When shooting a gun, being able to hit the target is more important than the ammo you hit them with. Same thing goes for a knife. If you can't hit your target because you are fighting and can't get a slashing motion in but you can get a stabbing motion in, but your knife can't stab, well that's a problem with your knife.
Furthermore, the hook-like shape of it might present a problem in the slashing department. If they are wearing clothing (most BG's do wear clothing), then I think the hook shape might make it difficult to follow through. What if your knife hooks onto their clothing and slows down your second slash attempt?
Sharpening that would be a major PITA, but if you never ever use it except when saving your life, I suppose that doesn't matter much -- you can buy a new one after you dull it on someone's rib cage.
"In a world of compromise, some don't." -HK
Seems to me that if you want a knife with this general characteristic, you'd be a lot better off getting a kerambit. Either as a folder or as a fixed blade, the kerambit design still allows for stabbing, along with the kind of raking-slashing ability emphasized by the Civilian.
Blade thickness, shape, handle design... This is like the Platypus of knives.
"It may seem difficult at first, but everything is difficult at first."
Used to carry one, but when I had lock issues it went back home and Spyderco was nice enough to give me a Yojimbo for it.
Ruthless knife. Loved it...
I stay away from this blade type and there are blades out there of great quality for multi uses and they serve me better but its like so many things guns, cars, holsters and its all in how it works for you.
As noted by others, it's a specialized blade design, not a utility knife. I "waved" mine with a Dremel, and it's a lightning-fast folder that slashes more effectively than anything short of a much larger blade. No, it's not a good stabbing weapon, but it offers good defensive capability for someone not well-trained in knife work.
I actually prefer my Benchmade CUDA Maxx 5.5 or my Benchmade Ruckus, but they are both significantly longer and (especially the Ruckus) heavier/bulkier than the Civilian. The Civilian serves nicely as a backup to a concealed handgun.
I have the Spyderco matriarch which is the same blade with different handle a bit less expensive. But practically the same knife
What people should realize is that it's a specialty tool, not an edc meant primarily for civilians, nor was it designed as such. I've got one myself, and knowing how to use it [ trained with Keating for 9 years in lots of things ], it's strengths and weaknesses, one makes the choice to carry it or not based on mission statement/s.
Put it in the hands of someone who knows it's strengths and weaknesses, it's going to be effective. It's a last ditch tool, not a primary edc tool, nor was it designed to be.
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The Civilian has never appealed to me, no, and I love Spyderco knives.
Either the one in the OP's picture is very old, or it's a copy. I'm not sure which.
Its a simple slashing weapon .. a 9 inch smooth stick could be used as a trainer if a person simply has to develop some sort of prowess. Most people are not masters in the use of their holdout weapon. When you get to the point that you are looking for sticks and bricks to use as weapons.. a large karambit in your pocket would certainly be welcome.
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I carry a Resilience, an Endura, and a Delica (usually some combo of two of the three).
Never tried the civilian
Though defensive violence will always be a sad necessity in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men -St. Augustine
I have the civilian and the matriarch both. I don't carry either one. They are not real practical as an EDC. I would be required in Colorado to not conceal it and the shape of the blade and intended use would raise a few eyebrows. I bought them as a fun to own collection. My favorite Spydercos are Military, para military, police, Endura, and ultize. I would carry the Ultize all the time if it wasn't above the size limit in Colorado. I can't conceal it either. The perfect EDCs are Benchmade Osborne 940, Centafonte, or para military.
I had someone tell me they had a DPD officer arrest them for carrying a civilian. The DPD officer said it was an illegal blade shape. He said nothing about the length. DA refused to prosecute. They kept the knife. I have no way of verifying the story.