So, you want to carry a tactical pen?
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This is a nice model, especially for the cost. I find it to be solid & easy to handle - plus it's useful for ...
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February 12th, 2012 12:37 PM
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This is a nice model, especially for the cost. I find it to be solid & easy to handle - plus it's useful for writing as well.
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February 12th, 2012 12:48 PM
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February 12th, 2012 02:00 PM
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Depends on what your definition of a joke is I guess. If its in your shirt pocket only the very top will be visible anyway.
Its just another tool, and just because you own or carry a tool does not mean you know how to use it. Just like a handgun. Most people in general including members here have never even been in a physical fight in their adult life and have no hand to hand/martial arts combat training of any kind. If a larger and stronger man gets his hands on you a tool like a pen may be a viable weapon to give you some needed advantage. If you know how to use it. Most people would be better off working out regularly and just getting in some semblance of shape, and then get some basic martial arts training. Fat Twinkies tire quickly and don't fight very well.
Out of curiosity is this one of the type of pens you would call silly?
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I wouldn't refer to that one as silly, this one I would TAC-092 - United Defense Pen Gun Metal 6061 Hard Anodized Aluminum
I think I should have clarified a bit, What I'm actually looking for is a "discreet" pen. meaning some are more likely to be identified as a weapon.
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February 12th, 2012 02:34 PM
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The Embassy Pen from CountyComm is a good example. Note the texturing on the body.
In fact, this was the pen that pretty much started the whole EDC craze. If you know what you're doing, a pen of any type can be an effective tool you can get through a checkpoint.
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February 12th, 2012 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Depends on what your definition of a joke is I guess. If its in your shirt pocket only the very top will be visible anyway.
Its just another tool, and just because you own or carry a tool does not mean you know how to use it. Just like a handgun. Most people in general including members here have never even been in a physical fight in their adult life and have no hand to hand/martial arts combat training of any kind. If a larger and stronger man gets his hands on you a tool like a pen may be a viable weapon to give you some needed advantage. If you know how to use it. Most people would be better off working out regularly and just getting in some semblance of shape, and then get some basic martial arts training. Fat Twinkies tire quickly and don't fight very well.
Out of curiosity is this one of the type of pens you would call silly?
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My sentiment, exactly. Its true that any idiot can jab a pen into someone's eye. For that matter, if that is going to be your only skill-set then why even spend the money on a tac pen? Any cheap plastic pen readily available at Wal-Mart can be used to poke an eye out. I would imagine that any of the cheapies could also pierce a perp's neck if its held in a fashion where you're fist reinforces the pen by holding the majority of the pen's body accordingly. Its a gross misconception to believe that you're completely prepared to defend yourself by simply purchasing a tac pen. You have two fists also, does that make you a boxer? To extract the full potential of tac pens, its important to have appropriate training. It would be misfortunate for someone to delude themselves and believe their tac pen is going to be the solution to a SD situation only to find at the last minute that they really don't know how to effectively use it. If anything, the thing can be a liability if you don't know how to use it. How sad would it be if your tac pen was taken from you and used against you because you didn't have appropriate retention skills?
A tac pen is another tool in your SD arsenal and like any of those tools, its imperative to be cognizant on appropriate application.
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February 12th, 2012 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Given the likelyhood of loss and not wanting a pen that will be identified as a weapon, I think the Zebra is the one for me! Thanks for the suggestion!
I got the idea from another member here on a similar thread. I've had one for about a year and love it. What I really like is the threaded tip is solid metal too. I believe you can use some of the space pen refills if you absolutely need to write upside down or underwater, lol. I mostly find mine at Walmart.
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February 12th, 2012 03:34 PM
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I have to agree with DefConGun, good argument!
To me there are a lot of resources available to use as a weapon. Perhaps if I was flying someplace I might consider a tactical pen but I have no plan of ever going through an airport if I can help it.
So to add the pen to my weapon and knives is an expense I don't need. Everyone has to draw the line someplace! I stopped wearing body armor when I surrendered my badge.
But I like DefConGun's thinking and if I ever did start using a tactical pen, it would be a good idea to learn some tactics!
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February 12th, 2012 03:46 PM
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February 13th, 2012 12:07 PM
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February 13th, 2012 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I think a tactical pen can be a legitimate weapon if you have proper training. Without training, its pretty much just a pen. With training, its a pen and another tool in your arsenal.
Practically anything can be a legitimate weapon if you have the proper training.
Just ask the assassin who was on the receiving end of Jason Bourne's rolled up magazine!!! (half joking)
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February 13th, 2012 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I like the F401 and 402
I love the F-402. I prefer the medium tips, so next time I will buy the 1.0mm refills. I've been using these off and on for probably 12 years now.
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February 13th, 2012 02:58 PM
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This would be good for my wife who is a HS teacher.
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February 13th, 2012 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Another Zebra 701 fan
Chalk up another one here.
Did the easily-Googled changes (swap parts with Zebra 402 + Fisher space pen refill). Writes nicely for a ballpoint and is very solid.
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February 13th, 2012 04:03 PM
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Only if I can draw Tactical Guns and Bullets,to tactically waste the BG stick people
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February 13th, 2012 05:14 PM
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Here are two Zebra 701s and couple Sharpies that I carry. One Sharpie is a fine point and the other is normal sharpie point. Granted they are not as strong as a "tactical" pen but they don't raise anyone's suspicion either. I am not as well trained with them as other people may be, however I have trained with them doing rapid hammer fist strikes.
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