Knife Laws in the Carbibean

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    Knife Laws in the Carbibean

    Does anyone have a link for laws about pocket knives in St. Maarten or St. Thomas?
    I will be going on a cruise for the first time soon and I want to take a simple pocket knife like a Swiss army Ranger or a Spyderco Lady Bug but don't want to end up in trouble over it. All I have found so far is info about the various cruise line policy and lots of people questioning why you would ever consider taking a pocket knife on a cruise etc. Most of the pro knife responses have been running toward taking a cheap knife you don't care to have taken away. I couldn't care less about the knife I don't want to go to jail for it.

    Assuming it looks legal on "paper" I won't take anything with an assist like a Kershaw or Gerber Fast Draw but I would like a thumb hole opener.
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    one thing to consider is that some companies have you walk through a metal detector as you return from ports of call. might want to verify that aspect in one of the cruising forums.
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    What I read the security in port outside the us is easy. Lots of dive knives go in and out just entered to confirm legality of carrying ashore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daveb413 View Post
    one thing to consider is that some companies have you walk through a metal detector as you return from ports of call. might want to verify that aspect in one of the cruising forums.
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    There are some non-ferrous alternatives.
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    To be on the safe side, I would advise against carrying knives outside of the US. Just carry a tactical flashlight.

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    US Virgin Islands Code:

    § 2251. Carrying or using dangerous weapons

    (a) Whoever--

    (1) has, possesses, bears, transports, carries or has under his proximate control any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, billy, sandclub, metal knuckles, bludgeon, switchblade knife or gravity knife or electric weapon or device; or

    (2) with intent to use the same unlawfully against another, has, possesses, bears, transports, carries or has under his proximate control, a dagger, dirk, dangerous knife, razor, stiletto, or any other dangerous or deadly weapon shall--

    (A) be fined $5,000 and imprisoned not more than five (5) years; or

    (B) if he has previously been convicted of a felony, or has, possesses, bears, transports, carries or has under his proximate control, any such weapon during the commission or attempted commission of a crime of violence (as defined in section 2253(d)(1) hereof) shall be fined $10,000 and imprisoned not more than fifteen (15) years, which penalty shall be in addition to the penalty provided for the commission of, or attempt to commit, the crime of violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankeejib View Post
    US Virgin Islands Code:

    § 2251. Carrying or using dangerous weapons

    (a) Whoever--

    (1) has, possesses, bears, transports, carries or has under his proximate control any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, billy, sandclub, metal knuckles, bludgeon, switchblade knife or gravity knife or electric weapon or device; or

    (2) with intent to use the same unlawfully against another, has, possesses, bears, transports, carries or has under his proximate control, a dagger, dirk, dangerous knife, razor, stiletto, or any other dangerous or deadly weapon shall--

    (A) be fined $5,000 and imprisoned not more than five (5) years; or

    (B) if he has previously been convicted of a felony, or has, possesses, bears, transports, carries or has under his proximate control, any such weapon during the commission or attempted commission of a crime of violence (as defined in section 2253(d)(1) hereof) shall be fined $10,000 and imprisoned not more than fifteen (15) years, which penalty shall be in addition to the penalty provided for the commission of, or attempt to commit, the crime of violence.

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    Thanks. I've seen this and it was the "dangerous knife" that concerned me for St Thomas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunthorp View Post
    There are some non-ferrous alternatives.
    Right. I believe Blackie Collins makes a fully synthetic, assisted opening knife. Some kind of fancy spring that doesn't set off a metal detector. It's dirt cheap, so I wouldn't expect it to last too long, but I'm sure there are higher quality alternatives.

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    Are you going to carrying this knife for protection? I have sailed many a cruise. Just ask for steak knife at your first meal and every meal after that. Take the knife off the ship and right before you step back onto the ship drop the thing in the garbage.

    Ships have metal detector and so do the ports of call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HKinNY View Post
    Are you going to carrying this knife for protection? I have sailed many a cruise. Just ask for steak knife at your first meal and every meal after that. Take the knife off the ship and right before you step back onto the ship drop the thing in the garbage.

    Ships have metal detector and so do the ports of call.
    Hitch, hate to say it, but that sounds like stealing to me. It may be something of trivial value but it still belongs
    to the cruise line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spidey2011 View Post
    Right. I believe Blackie Collins makes a fully synthetic, assisted opening knife. Some kind of fancy spring that doesn't set off a metal detector. It's dirt cheap, so I wouldn't expect it to last too long, but I'm sure there are higher quality alternatives.
    Spidey,
    this is very cool and I hadn't ever heard of it before.
    Thanks

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    Cold Steel also has non-metallic knives,albeit fixed-blade. I would just carry a good tactical flashlight.But that's me. YMMV. Edited to add, item at gunner is $12, shipping $5.25?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HKinNY View Post
    Are you going to carrying this knife for protection? I have sailed many a cruise. Just ask for steak knife at your first meal and every meal after that. Take the knife off the ship and right before you step back onto the ship drop the thing in the garbage.

    Ships have metal detector and so do the ports of call.
    It's all fine and dandy but if you get stopped and are caught carrying any kind of edged weapon, expect the legal consequences as well as a stay in jail.

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    Buy a heavy hardwood cane. It's more effective than a knife CQ anyway.
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