ASP Palm and Key Defender
This is a discussion on ASP Palm and Key Defender within the Defensive Knives & Other Weapons forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I thought I would share this excellent personal defense option for less lethal encounters. Those of you who work in law enforcement or know about ...
Post By Brent2006
December 4th, 2012 03:29 PM
December 4th, 2012 03:34 PM
I've owned a Key Defender for years and will ditto your testimony. Not a huge fan of OC in general, but this product can function as a kubaton and and deployed in other ways as you mention.
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December 4th, 2012 03:36 PM
I've had this on my keyring for a long time. Love always having it and no one knows it's pepperspray. They just think it's a big keyring. Great option.
December 4th, 2012 03:47 PM
That is one of my favorite things I like about the system. You can carry it openly and ready to fire when walking, riding public transit etc and nobody know what you are holding.
Originally Posted by limatunes
December 4th, 2012 04:23 PM
Just watched this. And at about 4 ft he missed because of the wind...
December 4th, 2012 04:33 PM
Yeah any OC can blow around in the wind. The good thing is in the Baltimore Country Police Study over 90% of pepper sprays were deployed at 3 feet or less. A good OC spray only needs to have a distance of 3-6 feet to be effective. Most advertisers market their products as firing 15+ feet and while that may be preferable, you aren't spraying pepper spray at someone across the street. The proper reactionary gap for most OC deployment is 3-6 feet. If it is windy or you decide you don't want to deploy the OC you still have an impact weapon/key flail already in your hand. I have read testimonials from people who have used this on everything from dogs, a hog and a woman in Dallas who used it to escape an attacker. It's a very effective option that has been street tested since it was first released in 1996.
Originally Posted by Biggie313
Here are a couple of other great videos of the ASP Defenders in action:
December 4th, 2012 05:20 PM
If you ever get sprayed with OC, all u can say is it works while u have a water hose in ur face. Lol
December 4th, 2012 05:36 PM
Baltimore county did that study? That is where I live. And its illegal to carry OC spray as far as I know.
December 4th, 2012 09:27 PM
Nope OC Spray is legal in Baltimore County and you can carry it in all 50 states. In Mass you have to get a permit (go figure). IN NY you can only buy it from a licensed firearms dealer or pharmacy. In CA you can't have more than 2.5 ounces of solution. In Florida its 2 ounces and in NJ is 3/4 an ounce. But in Maryland it is perfectly legal to carry.
Originally Posted by Biggie313
Here is the Baltimore County Study
Overall, OC was very effective in the
194 incidents where it was used (see
“Officers’ Comments on OC”on page 6).
A total of 156 (90 percent) of the 174individuals sprayed were incapacitated enough to be effectively arrested.
Data indicate that almost all officers
applied OC to the suspect’s face, as
they had been directed in training.
However, officers generally did not
spray from a distance of 4 to 6 feet as
instructed. In 144 incidents, the spray
was activated at a distance of 3 feet or
less; in 102 of these, OC was sprayed
at a distance of 2 feet or less.
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