Swords: Viable Weapons Even Today

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    Interesting articles Phil. Never really considered using a sword for self defense. After thinking about it, probably won't, but it was worth thinking about. Liked you points in the second article.

    One question, why carbon steel not stainless steel? I have knives made of stainless (as well as a few made of carbon steel), is there something I'm missing?

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    Stainless steel is too weak for use in sword blades. The chromium content weakens the bonds in the steel. It's fine for knives, but not suitable for blades of sword length. The various stainless steel swords on the market, especially the movie tie-ins and other novelties, are toys, not viable weapons.

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    Phil:

    Swords are good weapons for up-close and personal encounters, especially if firearms aren't available. I've got two and I love them.

    But the more I practice with swords, the more I appreciate firearms. Killing (or merely stopping) a BG is, at best, a brutish, bloody, uncertain business.

    It's even more so with a blade. Blades don't run out of ammo or jam, but I'd think you'd need a strong stomach to use one with the violence and persistence that you would need to effectively stop a home invader.

    AutoFan: As I understand it (I'm not a metallurgist, nor do I play one on TV), carbon steel can be given and will hold an edge a lot more easily than stainless. Carbon steel is also less brittle than stainless- stainless "swords" longer than a foot or so can have the disconcerting habit of breaking when swung in a way as to result in vibration or flex....

    There's also something very important about how the blade is tempered, but I don't know enough about it to make much of a comment other than to say it's something to check into if you want a sword.
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    That's why I carry a gun and not a sword, even though I own swords.

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    Me too, Phil.

    But if a sword was all there was to have, I'd have at it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by randytulsa2 View Post
    Me too, Phil.

    But if a sword was all there was to have, I'd have at it!
    heh, if a sword was all there was to have I'd tactically hide.

    That is, unless the BG only has a blade, oh and if I somehow knew that he only had a blade on him. Not sure how I would be able to pull that one off.

    Speaking of stainless steel.... http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...36417224631021
    I think he was about to say "The nice thing about these practice katanas is how STRONG they are."

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    I Guess That Video...

    answers the question about stainless steel strength in long swords?

    Sure does...next weapon please?

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    A United States military machete; i.e., a nice short handy sword?
    "There is no such thing as too much ammo. Unless you're swimming!"

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    I have all of the above placed around my residence, JUST in case.

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    Reffy, that video was great. Not that he got hurt, but the fact he was demonstrating how robust a charming cheapie sword was by smacking it against a table.

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    Good article Phil.

    One that goes into the practical aspects of using a sword that not many writers ever seem to grasp.

    I used to practice Kenpo. Even there there were two schools of thought...the traditional methodology that was somewhat watered down for competition and the practical and more realistic use of the sword that was only concerned about winning a confrontation.

    You hit on real life "today and now". Exellent.
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