Fuss over D&G fashion ads showing knives

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    Fuss over D&G fashion ads showing knives

    This goes to show some people are so mortified of guns and knives that they can't bear the sight of them in an ad without thinking it advocates killing and self-mutilation.

    D&G criticised over knife adverts

    Domenico Dolce and Stefano Gabbana run the fashion house
    Fashion house Dolce & Gabbana has been criticised over "irresponsible" adverts which showed some models wielding knives and others with graphic wounds.

    The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) said the two ads could be seen as glorifying knife-related violence and were likely to cause offence.

    It received 166 complaints about the ads in the Times and Daily Telegraph.

    Dolce & Gabbana defended the ads, published in October, saying they were designed to evoke the Napoleonic era.

    Forehead wound

    The adverts showed models in poses inspired by the paintings of French romantic artist Eugene Delacroix.

    The first, printed in the Times and Daily Telegraph, showed two men brandishing knives at a third man who was sitting on a chair.

    A fourth man was lying on the floor with a wound to his forehead.

    The second ad, printed in the Daily Telegraph, featured two men supporting a woman who was holding a knife and had a wound on her chest.

    Five separate categories of complaint were upheld relating to Dolce & Gabbana's social responsibility and issues of taste and decency.

    But a complaint claiming the adverts would encourage young people to self harm was not upheld.

    Dee Edwards, founder member of Mothers Against Murder and Aggression, was one of those who complained and welcomed the ASA's decision.

    "These adverts were at best distasteful and at worst dangerous," she said.

    "Showing young men brandishing knives while surrounded by glamorous women does not send the correct message out to our youth.

    "It is very important that advertisers understand the damage they can do by using this type of imagery."

    'Irresponsible'

    ASA said the knives in the first advert were being brandished aggressively and "could be seen as condoning and glorifying knife-related violence".

    It also said the advert as featured in the Times "was likely to cause serious or widespread offence" because it appeared opposite and article on knife-related crime.

    In relation to the second ad the ASA ruled the depiction of the wound caused by the knife also glamorised knives, was irresponsible and was likely to cause offence.

    The ASA said it had reminded Dolce & Gabbana of its duty to prepare adverts with a sense of responsibility and told it and the Times to take greater care in the placement of similar ads in future.

    'Theatrical'

    ASA director general Christopher Graham told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "We just think that fashion houses need to think before they advertise - however stylised, however glamorous, knives and stabbing should not be part of fashion advertising."

    In defence of the adverts, Dolce & Gabbana claimed they were "highly stylised and intended to be an iconic representation of the Napoleonic period of art, emphasising the theatrical effects of that genre".

    The Times said it would be discussing the issues raised by the ASA with advertisers.

    The Daily Telegraph said it did not believe most of their readers found the ads offensive as they would recognise their heavy stylisation.
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    I can't believe it! How is it some people are scared of pics and inanimate objects. Are they paranoid, I mean do they believe everything is a threat or evil. I don't know how they sleep at night.

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    Heck, that guy in the red coat even has a projectile weapon, a composite bow!!! Don't see any arrows though.

    Ya know, I bet that pig on the ground suffered some sort of trauma too before it was cooked.

    Well Tangle, they all say that we are paranoid for being prepared to face evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buckeye07 View Post
    ....Well Tangle, they all say that we are paranoid for being prepared to face evil.
    I know ....... but it isn't inanimate objects we're paranoid about.

    I was face-to-face with a guy one time, he was givin' me heck for carryin' a gun. He yelled, "Are you scared somebody's gonna get you!" I replied, "Not any more."

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    Some people make a federal case out of anything. Some of them must be boared and need to get a life. We have a ***** collumn in our paper here in Orlando and some people use it to whine about things that don't make any sense. Those pictures are a little bit in bad taste but not to make this much of a fuss. GET A LIFE

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    I don't see the big deal. This is obviously fantasy.

    I would have a problem if the people were dressed as children or even as thugs/ ganstas.

    If I saw someone dressed this way I may have to go to condition ORANGE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty View Post
    they can't bear the sight of them in an ad without thinking it advocates killing and self-mutilation.
    But of course, they like their bit of T&A in the dailies, and on the 'telly, which would (of course) in no way be contributory to any female's victimization. OTOH, maybe the women should take heart, with the rise of this type of "metrosexuality", perhaps the number of hapless victims who scream, flail their hands, screaming, "Pahleeece!", available to the Eurotrash thugs will increase, thereby decreasing their individual chances of being targetted.

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    Its only bad taste because it's irrisponcible to place a knife at someones throat as a "joke". It's Just as irresponsible to take a picture of goth kids pointing guns at each other or themselves for fun. It doesnt encourage violence just stupidity. I will never glorify violence but will also not shy away when it is necessary.

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    Heres the ad

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    "Five separate categories of complaint were upheld relating to Dolce & Gabbana's social responsibility and "issues of taste and decency"

    The whole industry should be fined for this violation.
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    So it's OK to show a scantily or non-clad woman on the cover of a magazine (think Demi Moore pregnant (and that other chick too) or the cover with Keira Knightley and the other girl nude). But heaven forbid you show some steel!
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    Well, after lookin at that picture Kevin put up, one of the guys actually has a double barreled flintlock pistol, and the guy on the ground looks like he has a bullet hole in his head. I'd say that was done in pretty poor tatse. Interesting how it wasn't brought up in the origional article though. Guess the sheep didn't know what old pistols looked like, or that knives tend not to make round holes.
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    The Wimps That Be have almost turned us into a nation of useless whining sissies.

    Warning...they are going to attempt to turn your kids into little runny nosed wimpy passive marshmallow fluff cookies.

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    I don't see these photographs as "iconic representation of the Napoleonic period". They look more like Anne-Rice-style vampires to me.

    Nothing to get excited about. Why should a society that loves all kinds of fantasy movie violence be disturbed by these depictions, anyway?

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