Not sure what to do with this Boker

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    Unhappy Not sure what to do with this Boker

    My brother in law was in Arkansas and thought that since I had just got my CCW for TN that he would buy me a knife for backup. He bought me a really nice Boker Top Lock Krakon Black knife. It is a great looking knife with a great blade and nice and small.

    The problem is that it is a switch blade and they are not legal for carry in TN. I'd really like to carry it but if for some reason I got stopped and it was discovered, I would probably be in trouble and could lose my CCW.

    I'm not sure if I should just keep it in my drawer and use around the house, sell it or carry it anyway. I was at one of the gun shops Friday and was telling one of the owners about the knife and my concern. He said that probably all that would happen is that the LEO would pocket it and not say a thing. Any opinions?

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    Are you sure it is a switchblade and not just assisted opening first?

    AO is fine.

    I found this on a knife store website.

    The Boker Speed Lock 3000 Knife and the Boker Top Lock Knives were designed by Dietmar Pohl.

    Boker introduced the Top Lock knife in 1996. Top Lock is the legal to own, non automatic folder that features lightweight cast aluminum or Delrin bodies with remarkable heft and balance. A hollow ground blade of Solingen stainless steel hardened to 54-55 Rockwell makes Top Lock a formidable cutting tool. The flush mounted push button locks the blade open, and locks the blade closed. Each Boker Top Lock knife comes with a lanyard hole, and a Cordura sheath for convenient carry.
    If it is a switchblade then trade it for something else, any LEO you meet might simply confiscate it, but they are also likely to ticket you, that might affect your Handgun Permit...
    Not worth risking IMO.

    Check to see if it is legal to sell/trade in TN, probably not, if not take it back to Arkansas and sell it there.

    Good luck, sorry about the law here.

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    Well, if you decide to sell it, I'm interested.

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    It's definitely a switchblade. Really nice action. If interested in purchasing, let me know and I can send some pics. Never been used other than opening blade.

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    In Missouri at every gun show you see tons os switchblades for sell. In Missouri its legal to own but not to carry. Is it the same in Tenn.. I own a couple and would love to carry one but like you am afraid if caught what might happen. I do carry a Kershaw Leek with assited open and let me tell you it is as quick as any switchblade and legal.

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    One more reason to live in FL! Here you can own and carry one as long as the blade is legal length. Have several myself!

    If I wasn't a little tight on cash right now I'd buy it in a second!
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    imgae of Boker

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELCruisr View Post
    One more reason to live in FL! Here you can own and carry one as long as the blade is legal length. Have several myself!

    If I wasn't a little tight on cash right now I'd buy it in a second!
    And remember we have Concealed weapons and firearms permit.

    790.06 License to carry concealed weapon or firearm.--

    (1) The Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services is authorized to issue licenses to carry concealed weapons or concealed firearms to persons qualified as provided in this section. Each such license must bear a color photograph of the licensee. For the purposes of this section, concealed weapons or concealed firearms are defined as a handgun, electronic weapon or device, tear gas gun, knife, or billie, but the term does not include a machine gun as defined in s. 790.001(9).
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    You're right there Miggy! Of course our streets are running with blood from all these legal weapons though, at least according to the anti's! Funny, I haven't noticed any around here though....

    If you don't get any takers on the Boker, PM me with an idea of what you need for it and I'll see if I can scrape together some money for it.
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    So, not being a big knife guy, someone please explain the difference to me between a switchblade and assisted opening. I've seen some of the Benchmade assisted opening knives and they look like switchblades to me.
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    Here is a try at it Tony. In Missouri law a switchblade is a knife that opens on its own by pushing a button or switch on the handle. An assisted open knife opens with the user starting to open it and then the knife takes over opening the rest of the way. There is no button or switch on the handle. At least that how my Kershaw Leek works.

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    I thought for sure you would be okay. For some reason I thought the law stated something about opening and closing. However here is what it says...

    Tennessee Code 39-17-1301 says
    (14) “Switchblade knife” means any knife that has a blade which opens automatically by:
    (A) Hand pressure applied to a button or other device in the handle; or
    (B) Operation of gravity or inertia; and
    I might be wrong but it seems to me to imply that even my Camillus Lever lock is out too. Also butterfly knives (inertia) might be suspect. (However you could just open the knife slowly and with your hands.)

    I have seen many people selling knives that open automatically at different locations in TN. Law also states it is illegal to sell these knives too. Not sure what the real distinction is here.

    Probably just want a knife with a thumb stud. Not sure if I helped or muddied waters. Does anyone know if this law has changed recently?

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    BSHardi is right. And, the Boker TopLock is a switchblade. You might opt for a spring assist like the Benchmade or Kershaw.

    Also, (this may have already been covered) Tennessee has a "Handgun Carry Permit" law, not concealed weapon law, and it ONLY covers handguns.

    As for buying or selling in TN...
    39-17-1302 Prohibited weapons
    (a)A person commits an offense who intentionally or knowingly possesses,manufactures, transports, repairs or sells:
    (7)A switchblade knife or knuckles;
    An offense under subdivisions (a)(7)-(8) is a Class A misdemeanor.

    However, if you sell it and mail it across state lines, it becomes a felony. I agree, that you should get rid of it one way or another, or put it away. Don't carry it. It WILL get confiscated if you get caught with it.

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    Oh, and one other thing, regardless of what knife you might carry, you are NOT carrying it for backup. Saying this means you are "going with intent to go armed" which is illegal. Just like carrying a baseball bat in the car "in case someone attacks you".

    If you carry a knife, it is for "utility purposes". If you carry a baseball bat, it is for "playing baseball". If you carry anything "for defense" it becomes a weapon.

    So, choose your words carefully.

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    Great information Inspector. Thanks!

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