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Hide Away Knife- New Addition

This is a discussion on Hide Away Knife- New Addition within the Defensive Knives & Other Weapons forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I will say one thing Tourist. I find it amusing you lampoon the carrying of a small implement like the Hideaway while simultaneously lampooning the ...

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    I will say one thing Tourist. I find it amusing you lampoon the carrying of a small implement like the Hideaway while simultaneously lampooning the mall ninjas of the world who carry 40 pounds of dangerous metal about.

    If I were truly, truly, over paranoid, over dedicated to my personal protection, I would carry a Bagwell Hell's Belle. Lynn Thompson would be there to teach me how to conceal it.

    But, as you suggest, I am not a Jedi. I instead carry a much smaller knife made for the worst situation I can fathom that doesn't require me to change my life style or wardrobe and costs maybe 1/20th as much.

    I appreciate Striders, Busses, and Mercworx offerings for what they are, but I've no plans to ever buy one. That's money better spent on a new Calculus reference text.


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    who carry 40 pounds of dangerous metal
    Simply, there is a happy-medium to all things.

    I know people who leave on vacation without so much as checking their tires air pressure. I also know people who write out on yellow legal pad every facet and time table for a "relaxing" get-away.

    If you carry a two inch knife (as your only primary weapon) you're kidding yourself. Heh, 40 pounds might be over the top.

    So where's the balance point? Well, we could start with an honest assessment of your life and a tad more reliance on avoidance. Odds are that someone, somewhere within the following year, right here in the good old USA, will be eaten by a tiger. I'm still not going to carry a Zulu tribal spear.

    I'm also not going to fall for that paranoid catch-all, "Well, it could happen."

    Buying fire insurance is prudent. Soaking your roof down every night might be a bit much. But, do an assessment. That isn't a cart blanche for everyone to go ape.

    YMMV. If 40 pounds floats your boat, you're an American, carry the stuff. I just have written a personal e-mail to our Pastor that I believe the present state of our church is spiritually dead. Life and the protection of those in our care is a serious matter.

    I have to care for my wife every day. I will not be swayed by a box-cutter or contents of a ninjas pockets.

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    Tourist, For inward stimulation and outward conjecture we could debate >>> Just how clean should we keep our gunz ?? Sittin' round the range after a shootin' session thats always good for making at least 2 people jump up and go stormin' off. But by the next range session they(I) have forgotten all about it. Isn't that what we want here ???-------

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    But by the next range session they(I) have forgotten all about it.
    That would be great. I think some people view the ideas on the 'net as "deal breakers."

    You could get into a flame war a few years back by just saying something akin to "I like Benchmades." Some clown would jump you, breathing fire, "What's wrong with Spyderco, you troll!"

    It's unfortunate that we have to use disclamiers, or smilies, or preface opinions with abbreviations like 'YMMV.'

    I've come up with a very simple way to drop forums. If a column jumps a guy for having an opinion which he professes with a sincere outline, I usually quit posting there. I'll lurk for a while to see if the mods step in. If the behavior continues, sooner or later I clean them out of my 'favorites' bin.

    You also have to know the turf. If a citizen started to monitor VTF, he'd find gear-heads, guys jumping each other, guys helping each other, and a smattering of soft porn--usually pics from Sturgis. It would appear to be a psych ward, or a typical motorcycle shop and you might shake your head. But that's normal and accepted behavior there. That's not good here, and that's not wha Bumper envisioned.

    I also rcommend that you take 'column holidays' several times per year. Shut the computer off and talk to an actual breathing person. Granted, that's easier for me in the summer, while I'm cooped up here in the frigid months of Wisconsin. But I think it helps. The weather has been crappy here for weeks, but I'm planning a 'computer free' span shortly.

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    I have a moving, knife fighting "dummy" out in my new/other garage and I go out there with my Gerber or my Randall and cut 'em up. My wife doesn't even call me in for dinner when I'm out in the "zone". I really like this forum. The inputs from the different expierience levels of people help me make decissions. As in all forums you gotta cut through some BS, but the CC forums seems to need less cuttin'. I appreciate being a part of this group. I find myself trying to figure out from what level of training are the contributors speaking from,but I'm sure everybody does that to certin extent. I personally do not wish that everyone know my complete background. I feel that it is better this way. I just want the people here to hear what I have to say and determine for themselves weather they agree with me or not. That's all--no more or no less. Either way doesn't influence the tides or weather I have a good day or not. I enjoy the humor and the fact that I have not seen anybody that was "overly" upset with anybody else. The moderators have(IMO) done a great job of keeping it under control. If they did not accomplish this ,I would be gone in an instant. To all of you out there >>Have a happy and safe Memorial Day, remember to fly the American Flag and remember what our brave troops are sacraficing so that we can have this holiday with our loved ones. Go to the cemetary and honor a veteran. Place a small flag or flowers on the grave. Does it matter if you don't know the person buried there? Not really---they died for all of us.------ RSSZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob72
    For anyone who thought it was a good idea, but didn't have the $$, or anyone who wondered, and didn't want to risk serious $$ on something left in the night-table:

    http://www.hideawayknife.com/new.php

    The new Utility HAK, in 440C. I have a S30V Hybrid and Curvy, and love'm. I carry one or both, all day, everyday. Check her out. FS (FrontSight)is good people.


    she's not good people; she's great people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tourist
    Sorry, guys. I agree with RSSZ. If I need a smaller blade for precise work I use a SuperKnife or an Xacto. In fact, my currect EDC blade for that type of work is a Razor Knife designed by Tom Anderson.

    What this little knife portends to be is a 'last ditch' knife. Now granted, this is a security forum and I understand that the implements discussed here are for defense. There are better easy-to-carry defense knives.

    My concern is the romance aspect of this knife. It is a knife that can be secreted on your person somewhere and wielded at the last moment against an aggressor. Most of us carry many layers of safety equipment, including a SureFire and a tactical pen.

    And if any area is designated a 'government safety' area, like a Post Office or an airport, stuff like this will get you arrested, dead bang.

    Admittedly, I carry 'secret weapons' that I'm not even sure my wife knows I have for trips to the movies and to the mall. (Mall ninjas are everywhere!) However, what I do carry is a lot more effective than this.

    I would put my faith in a common neck knife.

    Now for the disclaimer. This is my opinion only. You are an intelligent American citizen and you may purchase and carry whatever implement enhances your lifestyle. (After all, Arnold Schwarzenegger cut James Caan on the elbow with a "cheap piece of mail order crap.") With that proviso, please let RSSZ and I carry what we deem best for our security.


    ninjas are super sweet. real unltimate power!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waldo0506
    This looks like a cool little gadget.

    It seems as though some of the critics on here dont think the knife is big enough and compare it to a box cutter. I must remind you at one day a few years ago a few airplanes were taken down with box cutters. That just goes to show that it doesnt take much, or anything marketed as "tactical" to achieve many combat goals.

    Having said my piece it looks like a great idea. I know I would hate to get slashed with one.

    this is a most sobering reflection, and absolutley true. well said.

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    They are nice. I still prefer my LeGriffe.

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    [QUOTE=The Tourist]This thread broke into two streams of thought--equally important--and centered on this particular 'knife.' My intention was to address both issues, and I appear to have done so, however, it appears I did it poorly.

    Am I for defensive weapons? Of course I am. Security and safety are important. I just don't believe knives like this offer any advantage over a sharp stick in the eye. Our group here is making a huge guess. No one here is a knife fighter, an ex-con or even an unfortunate soul who stumbled into a life threatening brawl and saved themselves with a neck knife. The thrust of that discussion is "it couldn't hurt, anything is better than nothing."




    actually, there is at least one: me. i'm not a cop, in the armed services, or even emt/rescue services, just a guy who grew up in a bad neighborhood, and has had to use whatever was on hand for self defense, including knives, boxcutters, and broken glass. my dad saw fit to train me in self defense, then as i got older, he put me in dojo. he also encouraged me to always, ALWAYS, carry a blade when i could. since then, i've been an avid collector of knives. i recently bought a HAK, the utility model, and i think it's perfect for what it was designed for: accessibility, ease of wielding, and hand retention. it also allows someone with little training to use it adequately,as it doesn't require great dexterity or strength to get your 'point' across. and while i agree, it's all a matter of taste, i wouldn't be so quick to dismiss this as an overpriced boxcutter. a boxcutter can be knocked out of my hand; a HAK would have to be taken from me, and then you'd risk a couple of jabs doing so.

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    The Hideaway Knife is also featured in Barry Eisler's latest thriller, The Last Assassin. I can highly recommend both the knife and the book.

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    Go FS!

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    I'll just stand back and let Betty handle the light work, but add a simple comment. After 18 years of law enforcement and military (and no I wasnt a cook) I routinely carry a hidaway knife daily (infact one hangs on my neck right now). The one I carry is the Emerson designed after the WWII OSS issued LeGriffe (which literally means the claw). Its not the only knife I carry, but it has been missed on more searches than most folks have given and when it was needed, it was there, in my hand perfectly capable of bringing down a 6'2" giant and gee I'm only 5'08". To be effectivly lethal one must know what and where to use it. As for size, my last "take down" was a 6'05" in shape former NFL lineman. The whole time I was wishing Betty was there but alas shes taken. LOL.
    Steve
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    Just ordered my first. Order tracking page says it should be here any day.

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    this knife is a small weapon, people get scared and things escalate.

    I think most times if I got into a heated disagreement, nothing happened but a lot of yelling and trash talk about the guy's mother. And of course, liquor is involved.

    If a guy pulled this little knife, I would have felt, like now (confused), that the stakes had been raised.
    Maybe I misunderstood, but are you saying that this knife is more likely to be used inappropriately because it is small?

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