Great cheap knife

Great cheap knife

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    Great cheap knife

    Got a CRKT from WallyWorld a while back for $20, black plastic handles with a partially serrated black blade.

    I hate serrated blades, but I had just lost my Gerber and needed a new one. Now. Went ahead and bought it, I really like the flipper design of it (it would be a GREAT assisted opener knife), and the serrations were just too much of a pain for me to consistently stay in the grooves and keep them sharp.

    I took that part of the blade to the grinder, and now have a straight edge a little bit higher on the blade than the factory tanto on it. I love it.

    My reasoning:

    A) I hate serrations, they're a pain to accurately sharpen, and teeth break off easily

    B) Serrations tend to catch on loose clothing, not tear through or cut through effortlessly

    C) Plain edges are more durable, and a good edge can cut faster than serrations can tear

    Now there's a miniature hook starting about 1" into the blade, sharp as hell prior to, and sharp as hell starting at that point. I've been cut to the bone before by blades, but I REALLY wouldn't want to catch this one.

    Some of you folks may want to look into doing this if you share any of my reasoning, regardless the knife you currently have. Took me a few hours with sontes to get an edge, but man it's sharp. I shaved my face with the knife immediately prior to posting. Worked better than my razor
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    Looks good. I was looking for one of those for a friend. The price is right too.

    I can't get a good edge on a knife much less grind one down and resharpen. Nice work.

    I personally like a serrated blade. For some reason I have no problem sharpening them to a fine edge.
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    I've got one of the M16-13ZM Military ones, and really like it. Can't beat the prices.
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    Yep, I just got one. A great little knife. I like the LAWKS safety system on it. I also have this diamond sharpener, I forget who makes it. It's flat on one side and rounded on the other. Anyway you can fit it right in the serations. Then flatten the burrs on the other side. Works pretty good.

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    I have one of those guys sitting on my dresser right now. I like it alot, only complaint is I can't carry it anymore b/c one of the screws holding the clip fell off...


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    I have one too; not a bad knife but a little thick. I carry a folder IWB so having it nice and flat is good. Still, for the money, you can't go wrong with a knife like this. An inexpensive knife like this is a good place to practice sharpening skills too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghettokracker71 View Post
    I have one of those guys sitting on my dresser right now. I like it alot, only complaint is I can't carry it anymore b/c one of the screws holding the clip fell off...
    Give CRKT a call ... they might send you a free replacement set. And don't forget loctite!
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    Nice job. If that's you in the pic, you still need to shave........


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    Smooth as a baby's butt, the skin always shows the stubble regardless the method used for shaving or how good a job I do. Couldn't fel the hair in any direction, so its good in my book!
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    Can't go wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeep45238 View Post
    Got a CRKT from WallyWorld a while back for $20, black plastic handles with a partially serrated black blade.

    I hate serrated blades, but I had just lost my Gerber and needed a new one. Now. Went ahead and bought it, I really like the flipper design of it (it would be a GREAT assisted opener knife), and the serrations were just too much of a pain for me to consistently stay in the grooves and keep them sharp.

    I took that part of the blade to the grinder, and now have a straight edge a little bit higher on the blade than the factory tanto on it. I love it.

    My reasoning:

    A) I hate serrations, they're a pain to accurately sharpen, and teeth break off easily

    B) Serrations tend to catch on loose clothing, not tear through or cut through effortlessly

    C) Plain edges are more durable, and a good edge can cut faster than serrations can tear

    Now there's a miniature hook starting about 1" into the blade, sharp as hell prior to, and sharp as hell starting at that point. I've been cut to the bone before by blades, but I REALLY wouldn't want to catch this one.

    Some of you folks may want to look into doing this if you share any of my reasoning, regardless the knife you currently have. Took me a few hours with sontes to get an edge, but man it's sharp. I shaved my face with the knife immediately prior to posting. Worked better than my razor
    The only dilemma you may have is blade hardness now. If you ran it on a typical bench grinder at full speed and/or with or without constant cooling source (as in oil spray), it's probably going to have to be re-heat treated properly. The reason I say this is that the excessive heat created by the grinding process may have changed the properties of the metal.

    - just my .02 and I'm not an expert, but I have dabbled now and then. Might want to find a good bladesmith and ask them...
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    Doesn't look like you ruined the temper of the blade at all. Very good work. What kind of grinder did you use? Or did you do it by hand? Either way it looks perfect.
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    i have the 10 kz and i love it i carry it every day. i also have the larger crawford falcon w/lawks system crkt makes a helva good knife for the price . if you like the fixed blades they make a great seletion of those also my fav's being the ultma and the m60 sotfb.
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    Back when I was testing folders here:

    http://www.folders-r-us.org/full_tests.htm

    I tested a CRKT for strength of the blade, edge retention, etc. The blades are not heat treated hard enough and the tips are easily bent broken on hard targets.

    For a defensive blade, it may be acceptable to many, but not for myself. I demand more performance from a knife that may be needed to save my butt.

    If you scroll through the linked "tests", you find the CRKT at the bottom of the list.

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    Unfortunately, the clip screws (2 of 'em) backed out and were lost, so I'm back to my old Gerber until I get a Spyderco waved blade.

    As for the grinder: I only used the bench grinder with little pressure to knock the teeth off, stopping right above where the bottom curve of the serration stops. I then by hand added the edge.
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